Imagine my surprise reading this on the LA Times this morning (emphasis mine):
“I would not acknowledge reproduction as a human right, but instead as a form of rape,” IndictEvolution wrote on Lemmy.World in July 2023. “I am also not bothered by infanticide as long as it is done humanely…”
Here is an archive of the article.
Here is his account.
It looks like he only stayed on Lemmy for about a month, most likely a temporary Reddit exile with the earliest exodus on June 2023. The article mentions threads on Reddit but doesn’t provide any quotes from there. User IndictEvolution on Reddit deleted their account, and the article makes it sound like they are referring to a different username that they don’t specify.
In that same period, Bartkus’ rhetoric on alternative social media sites was dark.
I’m just proud they know we exist.
Of course he was a .worlder lmao. That instance is really never beating the allegations.
Holy shit the jokes just write themselves. It’ll be amazing if .world doesn’t try to censor this.
Man I am just glad I never made an account there.
Where should I go?? I thought .ml was bad
https://join-lemmy.org/instances
Just look around and join whichever looks interesting. It’s not a contract, either - you can change your mind whenever you want.
This (slrpnk.net) is my third instance.
Well, that depends on what you want. Lemmy.world leans right and harbours transphobes and racists, hence the nazi.world jokes. Personally I think such users should just be allowed to make fools of themselves, but if you find that disturbing you can join another instance. lemmy.ml leans left, lemm.ee is fairly centrist, and sh.itjust.works is mildly right. But all are great instances.
Lemmy.ml is seen as “bad” on Lemmy.world because the average opinion of Marxism-Leninism on Lemmy.world is negative, but that’s not the case everywhere. If you aren’t hostile to MLs, Lemmy.ml is fine.
It really depends in what you want in an instance, though. My favorite instances are the niche ones that stick to a common subject or theme, mander.xyz is a good example of a science-focused instance, or Hexbear.net which is focused on Left-Unity and anti-Capitalism.
Hexbear is an interesting beast. It tends to be really insular because it is defederated by a lot of the bigger instances. But it does have a strong sense of community, and a lot of its own in-jokes. From the outside looking in, it often looks like a dumpster fire. But the reality is that it’s more like old 4chan, where it always looks like a dumpster fire on the surface… Then when you dig deeper and start understanding some of the memes, you realize it’s actually a really interesting community surrounded by a dumpster fire
Most people are mad at hexbear because their moderation policies are consequentialist not deontological and thus more stringent against stupid online shit. As a poster you don’t have a “right” to post on hexbear, however the community has a right to be protected. As such it’s one of the better places if you don’t want to read reams upon reams of lib coded bigotry.
Hexbear was its own thing for years before federating, that’s why it has a stronger site culture than most other instances. It’s unapologetically Communist, so those who are hostile to that quickly defederated from them once they started federating.
Lots of instances defederated because of the tendency to brigade. Since Hexbear was already a fairly large instance before federating, it meant it tended to dominate a lot of conversations on other instances. People have similar complaints about .world these days too. But fairly early in the first Reddit exodus, there were a few cases of Hexbear brigading smaller instances, and the Hexbear mods/admins clearly didn’t have any interest in stopping it. So not all of the defederation is purely politically based. Politics may have helped swing the decision, but it certainly wasn’t the only reason.
Yeah. The “it was just because they hate communism” descriptions of hexbear defederation are just making up a story of oppression to explain why it wasn’t actually their behavior that got them locked out. People don’t hate communism, they hate trolling, tankies (in the literal sense with the Ukraine invasion), and brigading (referencing their fights with the libs and then a bunch of commenters swarming).
I could take or leave the lemmygrad defederation, but hexbear absolutely made its own bed.
I don’t really think it’s brigading to participate on threads you’re federated with. If comments on threads federated with Hexbear are active, Hexbear users see them, and as Hexbear is a large instance, this appears as brigading, but is just a natural element of participation in federation. Some instances are hostile to Communists, so they didn’t want a bunch of Communists on every thread, so they defed.
Lemmy.ml is seen as “bad” on Lemmy
.worldeverywhere else becausethe average opinion of Marxism-Leninism on Lemmy.world is negativeof how tankies behave, butthat’s not the case everywherewe like to pretend otherwise. If you aren’t hostile toMLstables or tell the truth about countries were in love with, Lemmy.ml is fine.Ftfy
What a colorful modlog you have, frequently suicide baiting and complaining about Marxists. Always funny to check the modlogs of people most upset about Lemmy.ml.
Lemmy.ml is generally seen as fine, or positively among instances like Hexbear.net and whatnot. Users hostile to Marxists tend to also be hostile to Lemmy.ml, users pro-Marxism tend to be fine with it.
What a colorful modlog you have
Am I supposed to care what the terrible mods on this site think of me? Little weird of you to go crawling around there like it’s relevant but go off
Lemmy.ml is generally seen as fine, or positively among instances like Hexbear.net and whatnot.
I love how you immediately jump to an even worse regarded instance as if that’s going to help your point
Keep pretending y’all aren’t shitty tankies and aren’t hated by most of the rest of the site, you look like a bigger idiot than normal doing it!
I mean, you’ve been banned many times for telling other users to kill themselves, tried to claim calling a user “guy” isn’t misgendering them, and seem to just be generally toxic. It’s nice as a bit of confirmation that those who complain the loudest about Marxists also generally are toxic people. I wouldn’t call the mods removing your suicide baiting comments and transphobic remarks “shitty.”
Hexbear.net is worse regarded among people who hate Marxists, yes. As a Marxist, I don’t really hold the opinions of those hostile to Marxists as particularly important, the driving divide is in people’s position on Marxism. If I went into a MAGA conference, I would expect to be hated as well, but I wouldn’t care much either. Anti-Communism is the biggest division, those supportive of Communism tend to be okay with the Marxist-aligned instances.
Lemmy.zip and lemm.ee have been consistently the best so far.
And anyway, the main reason not to use lemmy.world is just that it’s the most popular. The whole point of coming to the fediverse is to decentralize so joining LW kinda beats the purpose.
If you want my personal opinion, it depends on how you want lemmy.
.ml is held by Marxist-Leninists. Most users there aren’t, but if you care about that, its either for you or aren’t for you.
.world is held by centrist liberals. Most users don’t care about that, but if it matters to you, there ya go.
My instance is for anarchists. There’s ones for queer people. Or people who speak German. Or Italian. Or French. Some are made for being NSFW, some are made to shitpost, some are isolated by choice or massively de-federated.
But most instances don’t care who you are or why you’re on it, just don’t break the rules.
So far lemmy.cafe lemmy.zip sopuli.xyz all seem fine, I don’t recall a constant issue with the userbase.
I signed up for it when leaving reddit just because it was the biggest, what’s wrong with .world?
.world is ideologically liberal on average, so a lot of people on the fediverse take issue with that as Leftists tend to be more prominent by ratio than on Reddit. It’s also the largest instance, and gets hate for that, as a lot of people like the decentralized aspects of the fediverse.
…That it’s no better than reddit and doesn’t ban right wingers? Like that IndictEvolution account is still up lmfao
My echo chamber noooo
Liberalism is the dominant ideology in western society, banning the Marxists but keeping the liberals is more of an echo-chamber than a Marxist instance banning liberals could hope to be. Liberals never have to engage with Marxism if they don’t want to, Marxists must engage with Liberalism on a daily basis.
So is the !antinatalism@lemmy.world community he was a mod of
So what? I don’t think we need to worry about his future posts.
Spouting blatantly ecofascist rhetoric should have had him banned and his comments removed. Instead the community he modded is still up and still posting ecofascist shit with zero pushback from admins.
Not much, its just has most lemmy users/communities so its a big point of failure.
Truly the /pol/ of the fediverse
People fighting over instances is fucking stupid.
Not really tho. Some instances talk a big game about their cOnCeRnS when defederating from the explicitly leftist instances but then let fascists of every ilk say the wildest shit as long as it’s directed to whomever is the villain of the month for libs.
卄乇ㄥㄥ ㄚ乇卂卄
Aww, but stirring shit from a third instance is fun!!!
I’d agree except it’s the biggest one, so fair game imo.
It’s like Hamiltonians taking swipes at Toronto.
Truly the cesspit of Lemmy
Wonder if the wayback machine can find anything from reddit or if we can find their account on lemmy.
Fuckin wild and 100% un-surprised it was .world lol
I linked his account on Lemmy.world in the original post. I couldn’t find an active account on Reddit though, unless the LA Times reporters used the wayback machine themselves to see his old posts. I’m sure that they would be on wayback machine, but the article mentions a different web handle associated with him.
These people are like the photo-negitive of Eugenicists.
anti-natalists present with reactionary ideology since they’re obsessed with what other people are doing with their bodies. And they advocate for a totalitarian state to regulate that. But then they’re also obsessed with environmentalism?
Maybe their lefty misanthropes? I don’t get it.
Maybe the term is being taken over by eco-fascists, but I’ve considered myself an anti-natalist for many years and I’m only playfully misanthropic.
I don’t go in for the Malthusian claptrap. I just think it’s more ethical to adopt an existing, actual real child rather than make a brand new one. I think this is a really really compelling point, and I wish more parents would seriously consider it before choosing to follow their biological imperative.
It’s like with nihilism, where everyone agrees life is ultimately meaningless, but some people are real babies about it (pun intended).
If you read some of the other comments here, it’s more like they’re the two sides of the same coin. Eugenicists want to kill poor and other disadvantaged people and antinatalists (at least going by the bomber’s comments) want primarily poor people not to have kids, although they seem to try to dress it up as not wanting anyone to have kids. Who knows, this is all pretty fringe stuff.
Who knows, this is all pretty fringe stuff.
He personally was the fringe, but antinatalism is product and offshoot of neomalthusianism and eugenicism which are in the core of imperialism. Just the big scale ones do not bomb a clinic, they bomb and starve entire nonwhite countries.
His last comment contained “and that wellness is hard to measure since society does not allow people to express how they truly feel about things.”
Too true.
lmao, the only mod action on his account was removing him as the mod of !antinatalism@lemmy.world four days ago, after he was already dead.
Which was the day after the bombing, FBI must have been up LW’s ass pretty quick.
That seems very minor. I wonder if it was just a coincidence. Someone pointed out in another comment here that he’s still the moderator in a couple of other communities.
That’s the only mod action for the entire community, if it’s a coincidence it’s a wild one.
Ah, interesting. That pushes it more toward probably not a coincidence.
LW still not banning that comm is disgusting
Up until now I thought anti-natalism was nonviolent. Now they’ve got their own Unibomber.
“I am also not bothered by infanticide as long as it is done humanely…”
kills one and injures 4 others
I got a funny feeling this guy doesn’t actually care about consent.
This person was removed as the sole mod for !antinatalism@lemmy.world three days ago.
wtf? being a domestic terrorist is not against lemmy.world rules as long as you don’t do it on the site…
Man this will probably hurt the amateur chemistry community due to overreacting crackdowns, even though this is one guy who was part of that community and plenty of other people have done bombings without any interest whatsoever in amateur chem. I do think the community needs more moderation given how frequently I see dumbasses on reddit doing some extremely dangerous shit without realizing it, but this will probably get any discussion of fun chemistry banned everywhere.
Mander.xyz is a better instance for science than Lemmy.world anyways.
lmao
Wow. Now there’s a bunch of people who should never have been born. Too bad they’ve gotta make it everyone else’s problem
Not beating the Reddit.world accusations. 😏
But have you considered .ML is evil tankie!?!!?
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It’s very impressive how brainwashed shitlibs are that they think the concept of “pointing out blatant double standards” was invented by a man who is younger than the current and previous US presidents.
Seems to be pretty effective, sitting at 76 upvotes and 9 downvotes as viewed from Lemmy.ml. Seems the random and baseless assertion of Russian propaganda is less effective.
Believe it or not, Lemmy.ml is federated with many instances.
Big if true
We need to step up our game. Quickly kill some white rich people, there’s nothing more evil than that!
you openly supporting killing white rich people?
I’m not native english speaker but I think the joke is pretty clear.
just kidding?
see how that works in court
I know that I gonna say may surprise you but the world is not just EUA and Europe.
I did not commit any crime
there’s people on here pretty far down the radicalization funnel here so there’s a lot of people indicating that that is acceptable behavior
I support treating rich white people the way you advocate for treating Palestinians.
so you want to kill people? how?
Humanely
how many would you like to kill?
Wait! Choose which fat old white guys. Don’t leave it to chance!
Nostradamus
it’s cool that Mali (.ml) is one of the Sahel states that’s rejecting imperialism and ML also happens to stand for marxism-leninism
I mean it is but this was about .world
The point is to show that anticommunists complain about Lemmy.ml like McCarthy, but it ended up being a Lemmy.world mod that committed Malthusian terrorism.
The point was that people complain about something going on in .ml but something unrelated happened with .world?
Lemmy.world frequently calls Lemmy.ml evil, yet to our knowledge only a Lemmy.world mod has gone on to become a domestic terrorist, a Malthusian no less. It points to hypocricy.
Many more ways to be evil than just being a terrorist though
Let me guess, you think being a Marxist is evil?
“Tankies are a serious threat to domestic and international politics. Please ignore that only 1% of all people know what that is. Also let us actively keep a terrorist and retroactively remove their comments before it became news, because the FBI made us.”
I can bet .ml is considered a bigger threat.
I think theyre embracing the comparison
Yeah but see Hexbear is actually the violent extremist instance not the Rational Centrist instance of lemmy dot world. Or something I dunno I have a brain
It’s the same thing that happened on Reddit when a childfree subscriber killed his kid
Hmmm, how did they find out?
You mean the reporters? I wondered about that, but then realized that the guy tended to use the same online nickname on various sites. Searching the web for that nickname probably turned up a bunch of his accounts and then they could read the comments to determine if they were likely the same person. Pretty good reporting, I thought.
Ah, good reason to always make new usernames for each site/service that is signed up for. 😉
Yes, definitely a good privacy and security practice. Different passwords is important too. Different email addresses as well, if possible. There are services like simplelogin and anonaddy that make the email part simple.
Yes, the email I use has that built in, though if I can I don’t use email for an account, like on Lemmy (which is how it should be everywhere in my opinion, just a username and password). All my passwords are different too!
lmao, of course
