The Vatican on Monday declared gender-affirming surgery and surrogacy as grave violations of human dignity, putting them on par with abortion and euthanasia as practices that reject God’s plan for human life.

The Vatican’s doctrine office issued “Infinite Dignity,” a 20-page declaration that has been in the works for five years. After substantial revision in recent months, it was approved March 25 by Pope Francis, who ordered its publication.

In its most eagerly anticipated section, the Vatican repeated its rejection of “gender theory,” or the idea that one’s gender can be changed. It said God created man and woman as biologically different, separate beings, and said people must not tinker with that plan or try to “make oneself God.”

“It follows that any sex-change intervention, as a rule, risks threatening the unique dignity the person has received from the moment of conception,” the document said.

  • Doug Holland@lemmy.world
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    This is barely news; the headline might as well be ‘Hate group hates’. But jeez, I giggled at the start of the fourth paragraph with, “In its most eagerly anticipated section…” Even among Christians, even among very-very-Christians, is there anyone who “eagerly anticipates” the Vatican’s declarations of doctrine?

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    Guys, guys, i’m starting to think this orthodox Christianity is just a lot of made up nonsense

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        I would basically be fine with the Pope if he stopped the child fucking. The bar is pretty low. I try to have a bit of empathy for the elderly not being very progressive.

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    Funny I felt a lot less dignity without gender affirming surgery.

    And on a bitchier note, my genitals may be handmade, but I’m allowed to use them.

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    Not breaking news: the Roman Catholic Church is not a force for good in the world.

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    Ok boomer. If trans people want to “make themselves God”, I support that. Whatever that is supposed to mean anyway.

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    something something yin and yang. Be a little based, gotta be a little unbased.

    Balances out the universal gravitational whats its doohickeys or something.

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    Heh, looks like the old folks are trying to keep their theories illogical!
    I have to say I don’t personally think much of current gender reassignment, but it makes absolutely no sense to say that this current trend isn’t in some way aligned with ‘the lord’s plan’, should you believe in that. There are definitely people who feel better as the other sex, you’re trying to tell everyone that an all-knowing being couldn’t account for that?

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      It’s part of the whole “trials and tribulations” and “works in mysterious ways” arguments.

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        When a friend of mine moved away to be with his trans girlfriend, my parents said it was a sign of the world’s corruption in the End Times. That’s how most Christians think, in my experience. Anything they personally agree with is God’s will, anything they don’t like is Satan’s corruption, and anything they don’t understand is “mysterious ways”.

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    I can’t say I really understand the argument against surrogacy they’re making here. It seems like the same argument would mean that adoption shouldn’t be allowed either. Their other argument on the matter seems to be that abuse of a system means a system should be eliminated, which is an interesting argument for the Catholic Church to make.

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      I can’t say I really understand the argument against surrogacy they’re making here

      I remember a Bible story about a man that died before having an heir so his brother was to impregnate the widow. But surrogacy is bad for some reason?

      Oh, surrogacy is something a woman could benefit from. Right.

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      I think their skydaddy logic is it can’t be done without discarding eggs and as we all know each egg has a soul.

      Meanwhile they eat eggs during lent.

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    It’s astounding to me how on every social issue in the past 2000 years, the church is always like 25-100 years late on taking the right position, and they just never learn.

    So look forward to the Catholic Church being ok with gender affirming surgery in 2050.

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      Violence is not the answer to this level of zealously and hate. They will just squeeze their ignorant followers for money to rebuild bigger and more extravagant than before. You have to hurt them by making them a non-issue. Vote for political candidates and laws that remove religion from politics.

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      A heist at the Vatican is my best chance at being able to afford retirement at this point, I’d appreciate if one of the more ethical options to steal from isn’t destroyed before I can get to it.

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          You’re in. Now we’ve just got to make sure we get into the right vault and not one that’s just full of the “relics” of body parts from dead saints.