I was just thinking about this, when I’m facing an issue, the first thing I do is go to a search engine and usually there’s a Reddit post. But I don’t want to ask there. And the only way we’re going to build up the info for folks to find us and come here is for us to just start asking here. On the Fediverse. We need to build up that mountain of knowledge that Reddit has and will always have. So we should be championing ANYONE asking questions here. Even if we think it’s obvious and we think you can just Google it. There was a time where you literally couldn’t just Google it. That was built over time. We need to build that here. So start asking your questions here! Find the answers and then post your answer to your own question. Or let someone do it for you. We need to build the knowledge here to be found. It’s not just about people looking for alternatives. We need our knowledge to be more valuable than their knowledge.
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i find that most of the information and recommendations i have seen on Lemmy is about what NOT to do or use. dont use this service, dont use this Linux version
Yeah we need to pivot to being more open. But not even just Lemmy. Post anywhere. Anyone can build anything. The Fediverse isn’t Lemmy. I posted on Piefed.social. :-)
All knowledge available for all, should be the goal. Us vs. them train of thought is so old and tiring but still continues to light a fire under some.
I think all knowledge should be shared with everyone. And we have the opportunity to make sure that knowledge we’re giving out stays free forever on the Fediverse.
knowledge that Reddit has and will always have
I deleted all of my comments and posts from reddit.
Deleting them only deletes them visibily. They don’t provide Reddit value for customers, but they’re still in the system somewhere in backups or in a DB, etc.
But still, I’m saying, having conversations. Start talking more here. Ask and answer, find others with similar interests. Let’s dog food this Fediverse!
Fully agree! I just learned about https://fedi-search.com/. I’m going to start using it.
Hmm, this sounds like a really cool idea, but it doesn’t seem to do what I thought it would. For example, I went to https://fedi-search.com/ and searched for “stop internet searching” expecting to find this very thread, but alas, no dice.
Oh hell no. Lemmy is an extremely specific filter bubble and absolutely not suitable to replace even the worst search engine.
Agreed. About the only thing I would search Lemmy for is obnoxious Linux snobbery. That, they have on lock.
I’m not saying LEMMY specifically. I’m on Piefed Social. I’m saying ANYWHERE on the Fediverse. Find your platform, build your platform.
I have been trying to do that since I came here because you are precisely right google has become at best broken at worst an agent actively trying to manipulate you and reddit is entirely untrustable, keep doing what you are doing and don’t forget to have fun while you are doing the right thing!
Thank you so much! It’s nice to know others agree. I’ve been so concerned with all of this, thinking I’m the only one thinking this, but I’m not. We’re ALL thinking this. And I’ve been having an absolute BLAST. Not just for myself, but doing my Fireside Fedi show and even working towards setting up my nonprofit BT Free. We’ll see where it all goes. Maybe it just us, but at least we have each other. :-) Thank you for the kind words of support. <3
Kagi has a search lens for Fediverse forums like Lemmy. More content in Lemmy will make that even better
Just to save people a rabbithole.
Kagi is pretty cool. But it’s not free. And for most people who don’t have much disposable income it’s not really a justifiable expense to pay for a search engine.
I wish yacy was better. Federated/self hosted search should be awesome.
I can sympathize with not having the money to pay for a search engine when others are free. Aside from the great results, I like the idea of paying for a search engine.
“If you aren’t paying for the product, you are the product being sold” is true, and I don’t want to use a search engine that is trying to sell me to advertisers. I want the company’s goals to be aligned with mine as a user. I want them to worry about making me happy as a user, not finding ways to show me ads.
Of course if one truly can’t afford it, paying for search can seem a luxury.
However I would argue as a counterpoint; If there’s any online service one would consider paying for, it should be search. Search is most literally our “front page to the internet”. It’s our first stop in any quest for information. Even the founders of Google knew early on, that putting adds in search creates a perverse incentive against the best results, favoring instead worse results, so people perform more searches, creating more opportunities to show people adds.
$5 a month isn’t much to know your query will give the results you want, instead of what an advertiser wants.
Absolutely. I never imagined I’d pay for search but Kagi is leaps and bounds better than other search engines. I decided to pay when I realized how much I search every day after getting the free trial. Went through 100 searches in four days. If I search that much, paying for an engine that has no ads, uses useful lenses, and lets me block results from sites like Facebook was a no-brainer.
Love this. Yes anywhere on the Fediverse. I wonder if Searxng has a Fediverse search.
YUP! Just spoke on the SearxNG Matrix folks: https://matrix.to/#/#searxng:matrix.org
And you CAN do !bangs for the Fediverse they said. !lemmy or !mastodon for instance. I didn’t know that! I’ll be posting more about this.
I’ve made a conscious effort to start doing this in conversations in general instead of opening up a browser tab. Yeah, “just google it” is a thing, but asking is often enough if you’re not in a hurry, so why not?
Return to being social 🐒
I was thinking of a catching tag line instead of “just google it” I’m an uber nerd and would say “don’t search it! FEDIVERSE IT!” :-D
There is one worry I have about Lemmy being the knowledge of anything and it’s what happened on reddit. Many people went through and nuked their comments, essentially making many posts useless. There are already people here on lemmy that delete their profiles, comments and start over every few months. Not really sure what that means for all the federation, but I assume different instances may have different versions of deleted information in the long run?
the whole point is a living breathing community, not a wiki
when somethings alive things die and go away forever, when everythings perserved it feels like a tomb, a place to record stuff not actively engage, im hella exagerating, I just like that ppl own their own content a bit more than reddit
You can’t stop people changing their mind about deleting stuff. That can and should happen for any number of reasons, both good and bad. There are servers that would still have the information, but it feels like there’s less incentive to fully delete an account on the Fediverse as you can literally pick up the same conversation with a new account. Maybe I just don’t do enough social media use and miss the point. I deleted my stuff from Reddit, because I don’t want to help Reddit and it should be my private data. Fediverse we are all public and there is no tracking anyway. So whoever you are here, you’re it here, no where else, even with the same name.
deleted by creator
On the flip side, keeping your personal online footprint small is definitely more secure.
Maybe we need a soft kill switch to disassociate content with an account after x amount of time. Like for me personally, I’ve put zero effort into mopping up old content, and as often as I post, I’m sure someone with the desire could put the pieces together and dox me.
I’ve left it up anyway cuz I don’t want to do to Lemmy what you’re concerned about, but if I could nuke all my content older than a few months into an anonymous version, I’d be all for that. Leave the info up for anyone who might benefit from it.
That said, for community building sake, I’d hate to see posts go anonymous right out the gate like some 4chan shit; and posts should be associated with an account at least long enough for mods to have a reasonable amount of time to take action against an account that breaks the rules. But again, posts that are months old? The conversation there is over - my personal involvement is moot at that point, it’s just data now.
Disassociating with old comments and posts would be a good way to go, but I’m not really sure that’s an option for the fediverse? In theory couldn’t someone in the future set up an instance whose sole purpose is just back up and collect data? How would someone even go about trying to erase themselves from a situation like that?
You’re absolutely right, somebody totally could do that (instances that don’t respect post/reply deletion requests are already a known issue), and there’s very little you could do about that sort of thing once it’s already happened.
Which is why I think people on lemmy need to get used to the fact that their data isn’t theirs to own on something that is so public facing like this. Instead we should reteach people to be conscious of what information they post. Once upon a time even A/S/L was too much info.
I agree.
That needs to be in the form of a question, right?
I don’t know, does it?
There are some questions I just honestly would like a few opinions on and/or discussion around and I certainly prefer to do those here and here from members of the federation.
Go for it. Don’t attempt to rebuild a community from scratch, or do, but you can post anywhere that’s relevant and if there’s interest build that community.
have already gone for it since I have been here and will continue to. I like the feedback I got on cholesterol medication. thats a good example because I don’t need technical info. I have a doctor and pharmacist. I just wanted to see what folks experiences were. I only got one or two real useful ones but hey man that is as good as your going to get from local friends and relatives.
Good idea, I try to do it, but niche stuff is rough here, if you are a part of an active discord, suggest making and hosting a lemmy community to them, I’m gonna try to get some 3d discords to post more art here.
Every little bit counts.
Thats fucking stupid
Maybe, instead of Reddit and Lemmy and other forums, how about you just host a Wiki? Its gonna take more time, but it will be way better for readability.
Ok then.
Why does everyone hate the issi classic in GTA online, everytime I take my little beast out for a drive some massive car or Batmobile comes along and focuses their energy on destroy it.
I just want to do tiny burnouts.
At least four, possibly more.
Finally I get an answer, thank you.
Lol I didn’t mean in this exact post. But I love the question! Go make a post in a relevant community and get conversations moving. Even if you think only you are interested, I’ve found lots of folks share similar ideas and dont even realize it.
Is it targeted more than anything else? From what I had heard of gta online I would assume that no matter what you do, there’s always someone trying to ruin your fun.
Yeah, I take my other cars and drive for ages, I might get shot but nothing unusual for gtao, it’s the car they attack, one person spent ages chasing me down and attacking me, I jumped out and they took the car out then came and picked me up, so it’s gotta be personal against the car.
It’s made it fun tho, trying to escape in this little car, while this near tank like vehicle comes barreling at you, sending you flying into the air.
Kagi search has a function to specifically search the fediverse.
OH! LOVE THIS! Thank you KAGI!
What’s the right translation for “pepper” in German? And red pepper, green pepper and so on? I found several words that seem to mean pepper, but not sure if any is better than the others.
Lol well I meant across the Fediverse, but I like you’ve started immediately. :-D.
Pepper is Pfeffer, red pepper is roter Pfeffer, green pepper is grüner Pfeffer und so weiter. Ich hoffe ich konnte ihnen helfen. Einen schönen Tag noch.
Pepper can also translate to Paprika though when talking about plants. A pepper plant is a paprika in German. Spicy peppers are chillies.
Also, Bell pepper is Paprika in german
