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No ads masquerading as posts.
I don’t need any other reasons, that’s enough.
Lemmy doesn’t have u/spez, so it’s already infinitely better
It actually does (don’t know which instance), but I doubt it’s the same person.
At least not as an expensive leech at the head of the whole thing. He probably earns more on his own as what every single instance collects in donations.
waves from the distance
It also has you too which is cool.
This again?
Didn’t you see, it wasn’t posted for a few days, it was time for it to come around again.
It’s your turn to post it next month. Then mine in August.
A social network/online community can either be significantly profitable or healthy for its users. Pick one
I find the moderation is better here. My posts aren’t being removed because they didn’t match some forced title formatting or some other arbitrary reason.
People also aren’t just redirecting people to decade old posts and megathreads which is nice.
Think about what AskReddit is like with the same kind of posts over and over again because they decided to limit posters to the title text.
If communities end up with hundreds of thousands or millions of users, you will start to see more rules here too.
I’m not saying any specific rule choices are good or bad. But they become increasingly necessary when the user count crosses a threshold.
Yeah most of my communities I don’t even have much in terms of rules/haven’t spelled things out. It’s typically common sense.
As you get bigger… More order is needed to maintain common sense
That’s part of the reason I am hoping Lemmy doesn’t become the new Reddit with a total migration of users. I like the smaller userbase as selfish as that is. I feel like at least with the federated nature of Lemmy we would see less power mods that run a majority of communities preventing crosspromotion with other communities/instances and limiting feedback.
I get why rules need to be added as a community grows but with Reddit this seems to mean a lot of micromanagement over things that wouldn’t effect enjoyment of subreddit members and adding hurdles for new or infrequent users
Here’s a hypothetical example that kind of goes along with my previous comment:
I want to post in a Elder Scrolls game modding subreddit asking about quality of life mods for games before Skyrim. It gets removed because the subreddit requires you to tag a specific game using a format like [Oblivion] or [Morrowind] for easier searching and sorting. The issue is I am not just talking about one game and tagging every TES game since Arena would eat up a lot of title space.
In the grand scheme of things it makes sense but it’s annoying to deal with especially if the subreddit doesn’t clearly prompt users on why their post was removed and people who are just popping by to ask a quick question might be discouraged.
I am hoping we don’t see things like that become the norm on Lemmy.
I think a lot of the annoyance that comes from rules similar to your example is the fact it is a system bolted on to whatever is available in Reddit. And the UI/UX is almost always TERRIBLE.
If it was easier to make clean and functional post/comment flows this would be less of a burden.
Your points still stand. But I do think a large proportion of the friction from many rules comes from Reddits architecture. And frankly, the fact that they support apps. If it had stayed just the website, we would have probally seen more movement on improving these flows. But it’s deemed too complicated to support in two formats. Also, Reddit probally just does not give a shit.
I would hope Lemmy could be a place where it’s easy to deploy systems for proper labeling and tagging in niche communities that gain a lot from better taxonomies and other systems.
I had a really positive interaction with a mod on a NSFW instance. I commented on how I thought the dude was working in an unsafe manner…
I wasn’t banned! If this has been reddit I would have been banned and told to Fuck off.
It’s nice to have a place to go that’ll engage in conversation and education when needed.
It has support for 3rd party apps.
Here on principle for the 3rd party apps.
I realize the hardware and software cost money for a site. I’m ok with paying either by a friendly use of ads, or a decent subscription.
I was on the verge of starting to pay for Reddit to stop the ads when I used the website. I happily paid for my 3rd party app. But that was right when Reddit nerfed the subscriptions and went to their current version. And then stopped the API.
I happily paid for the Lemmy 3rd party app. I need to look into donating for the server.
That’s why I’m here!
This is where the fun begins!
The only reason it is better right now is a combination of obscurity and people not grasping how federation works as a slight barrier to entry means it has fewer people who all want to be here instead of somewhere else.
Reddit went downhill when it because universally popular and enough people were there to attract jerks who just go where everyone else is and overwhelm moderation. So I don’t want federation to become the standard, as other less popular options won’t be there to attract the attention seeking jerks that are drawn to the popular sites.
Popularity ruins social media because the most popular place is where the worst tend to congregate and overwhelm moderation.
Federation has a built-in solution to address this. Once the garbage starts overtaking quality, you can just move to an instance with a stricter federation policy. Traditional services do not provide this option.
While it provides a level of mitigation, malicious actors can overwhelm the system as a whole by switching instances, creating new accounts, and other intentional actions. Moderation cannot scale indefinitely even with better tools.
If the vast majority of users moves to instances with stricter policies that will increase the moderation burden on those instances. Kind of like how on reddit the smaller subreddits were managed well and most of the trash were ruining the popular subs.
So the current solution works for now, and might scale better than a centralized system, but if it reaches a certain point it will either end up being fractured significantly or end up swinging back to centralization.
All of those are reasons I think lemmy’s smaller population is a benefit right now and there is still plenty of room to grow.
I don’t think the vast majority of users will ever be interested in the sort of atypical content that niche communities provide. They generally prefer the more mainstream stuff, it’s kinda baked-in.
Also, I’m not talking about moderation, but federation. If you only federate with three instances, then only those three’s users can interact with you. This does not increase any moderation burdens.
No one is trying to monetize the platform. Sure, our posts and comments are being scraped, but the platform itself isn’t being managed with returns for investors in mind.
Because Reddit got worse
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3rd party apps.
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Fewer Nazis.
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Small enough to not have ridiculous rules that make it so only the mods and friends of mods can actually post something without it automatically being removed by an automod bot.
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Fewer dickhead mods.
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Either fewer dickheads in general, or at least fewer of them making multiple accounts so that blocking a dickhead actually works.
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Open source, not owned by a megacorp.
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Good third-party apps.
I’m not permabanned here for being obscenely anti-russia.
Besides what everyone else has said, I find the conversations here to be smarter. People who left Reddit are probably just more attuned to what’s happening. There’s probably less diversity of opinion here but that’s a trade I’m willing to make.
Basically, quantity vs. quality. I chose quality. Even on Reddit, I was mostly into smaller subs where experts responded to questions (like AskHistorians or AskPhysics) than the bigger ones. (I was banned from r/relationships for asking why women always think you’re hitting on them when you’re actually recruiting a team of elite female assassins. The mods apparently didn’t think it was funny.)
(I was banned from r/relationships for asking why women always think you’re hitting on them when you’re actually recruiting a team of elite female assassins. The mods apparently didn’t think it was funny.)
Nah homie, that’s fucking hilarious 😂
Yes, no ads + third party apps and a better political atmosphere is a win for me
Shark fucking is not a political stance.
Id say its highly political considering the government actively tries to stop me smh
Reddit -> corporation, greed driven, you are but a product fır the advertisers
Lemmy -> software, community run servers, service provided by people for people no money incentive
