• ProfHillbilly@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I was dealing with this all last week till finally a kid did it and his battery melted the computer in my classroom. He was told multiple times not to do it so now he is getting charged with possible arson. I have dealt with him doing stupid shit for the past 3 years and now finally the admins do something because it was so outlandishly stupid they have to. I am so glad I am retiring in less than 20 days.

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      explain to me why tiktok is promoting these videos and not censoring them?
      they censor cuss words on there, but not videos of encouraging kids to hurt themselves or others?
      but, there were always idiot fucking things up in school… well before the internet. tiktok is just channeling that.
      ….
      also, forcing kids to use chromebooks is child abuse… especially since schools spy on kids through them

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        I searched and the first time ever received a message about tiktok protection, etc. They are censoring apparently.

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    Man I feel like a large part of the internet is out of reach.

    Why have I got to sign up for tiktok just to watch this happen?

    Shit like this used to be easily finable on google or something. Now I can’t seem to find shit. All I get get in news articles about it.

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      That’s generally a good thing, those kids don’t need their bullshit going viral outside of tiktok. Give it 3 months for Instagram to pick up 5% of it, and then FB can pick up 5% of that.

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      Looks good to investors when they say “this many accounts use this platform.”

      It’s all a part of conditioning people to accept more and more abuse so rich people can get richer.

      They don’t want people with standards. They want people with Stockholm Syndrome.

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      We’re going to have a whole generation of kids pretty soon that are going to be entering the workforce and they’re barely going to be able to operate a mouse and keyboard. Although it’s not really the Chromebook at fault this started with the damn iPads. Why were schools issuing iPads to students anyway, they have the absolute worst possible UX for note-taking.

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      Chromebooks aren’t replacing computer classes. They’re replacing textbooks and mimeographed handouts for a variety of classes. Most of that stuff is web based now, and Chromebooks are cheap so they’re the perfect tool for the job.

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      They’re not learning. They’re being implanted into Googles software as a service model. Get the kids on Gmail when they’re young and they’ll never use anything else.

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        Yeah and then they enter the workforce and find that everyone uses outlook. Despite all of Google’s attempts I don’t know any businesses that actually use g suite mostly because Microsoft bundle O365 with everything these days so there’s no point business is going out and buying a second licence for software they essentially already have.

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        Yep.

        Same shit happened when conditioning students to use “PowerPoint” for science fairs.

        The indoctrination starts young.

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      That’s like if you taught the next generation of carpenters using Fisher-Price toy tools (all sponsored by Fisher-Price, by paying huge campaign money to the politician).

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    Not even that bad, they are learning about electricity in a hands-on manner. USB standards protect against short circuits so this is over exaggerated heavily.

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      Fucking a computer with scissors is a way to perhaps die and/or burn down buildings, I don’t think they learn shit

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      Same. To me, messing with a computer seemed like a great way to be on the hook for destruction of school property.

      (That said, I did once disable the USB inputs for a computer in the BIOS so the keyboard and mouse would stop working, as a practical joke.)

      I guess I never hung around any of you.

      Lol, good point. I often forget how I was put in advanced classes at an early age with other students who performed well. I need to consider that more in my adult life, that most of the adults I’m encountering were the people in the regular classes.

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        I never intentionally destroyed expensive electronics to “try to impress” anyone in real life, let alone online (although that didn’t quite exist yet).

        So, yeah, I’m sure.

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          My buddy stuck a paper clip in an electrical socket while we were in the cafeteria. Because his cousin had told him it would shoot sparks across the room. All it did was make him scream real loud, then the power to half of the cafeteria went out when the breaker blew.

          Another friend “accidentally” stapled his homework to his hand, to try and get out of going to music class. Apparently his plan was to ham it up and go to the nurse instead. The teacher laughed, called him an idiot, and sent him to music class with a band-aid.

          Kids have always been fucking stupid. The only difference is that now every kid has an internet-connected camera in their pocket, so their stupidity is more visible.

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              I had a girl staple her hand by accident, went to the nurse. We spent the next 30 minutes watching the teacher deal with a kid trying to staple himself on purpose so he could leave too.

              He did eventually get to leave, but not because of the staple.

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          When I was a kid schools didn’t have expensive electronics to destroy. But we sure drew a ton of penises in expensive textbooks.

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      I used to be a teacher in the 2010s. I remember boys having this ghost pepper challenge they would do that would put them in literal tears.

      I never stopped them. Some just have to learn through experience that being an idiot to impress your buds isn’t going to result in a good time for you.

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        That’s, like, a normal logical one. It’s actually food, it’s spicy. It makes sense to compete to see who can handle the spicy food. This is independently invented every day.

        Stealing faucets from public bathrooms? That’s not a normal logical one. That’s a devious lick, and something invented to be highly memetic and propelled by a highly optimized algorithm that incentivizes recency, novelty, and dopamine hacking. It even effectively had a brand name!

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            That’s actually harming someone, at least the janitor but it’s a hygiene issue and potential disease source. Yes it’s a stupid teenage prank but it does actual harm to someone else. Not cool (plus i don’t get why this would be funny: I’d groups it with the crayon eater and glue huffer , possibly complain to the school about special kids that need more assistance)

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        I defend that one, it’s just challenging yourself, no harm to anyone else or any property, almost no danger of medical harm. What’s the harm in letting them embarrass themselves for the right to claim they did something others couldn’t?

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          That’s why I let them do it. If it would have harmed them seriously or someone else I would have stopped it. But still doesn’t make it less stupid. They put themselves in legit pain due to peer pressure.

          If anything it served a good lesson so they might be less likely to succumb to peer pressure on things which may cause real harm in the future.

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            If so, I never learned that lesson. When I first heard about the one chip challenge, I was seriously tempted to challenge my teens to see if they could beat me

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        Eating a spicy pepper is just harmless fun. I’d join in that activity today.

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              Plus did you read the article? It’s whole shtick is adverting “intense pain and searing heat” as a challenge yet the lawyer is trying to make it a truth in advertising issue. While I feel for the family, I don’t see how requiring an “adult use only”has any benefit to anyone nor clarify what the product is. There so many issues with lying advertising, I don’t see focussing on “telling the truth asa challenge”

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            If he died because playing soccer revealed a heart issue, would you ban soccer? At some point you need to stop overthinking all possible edge cases, stop attempting to pad yourself from all possible danger

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      Most of us were differently stupid, only because we didn’t have access to other people’s stupid ideas.

      My worst moment of stupidity was lighting off fireworks in a barn full of dry hay. That could have gone so much worse than just ruining some cheap disposable electronics

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      Ditto. I grew up helping fix VCR by replacing displaced bands and gears. I knew to be careful not the let the magic smoke come out. Bad genie!

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      I was. When the bell would ring and the halls were hectic I would put popcorn in the communal microwave and put like 20 min and leave and sometimes nobody would notice till it catches fire

      I almost burned down the school a couple times

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            Dude, Sounds like you were old enough to understand that almost burning down your school intentionally, multiple times, was bad. Bullies or not. I’m not sure why you’re taken aback by someone thinking a little arsonist in training isn’t a good kid.

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              IIRC constant abuse tends to ‘reset’ the brain to earlier points of development where there was no abuse as it attempts to find less painful behaviour patterns. This results in delayed development of certain areas of the brain; most notably the prefrontal cortex that is heavily involved with decision making and social behaviour but that isn’t fully developed until one reaches ~25 years old so I don’t know what you mean by “should be old enough to understand” because they clearly weren’t physically capable of it.

              Source is introductory psychology courses. One of my professors is a researcher in child development and worked a lot with kids like the person you’re replying too. Treating them like “pieces of shit” just leads to more damage, so chill out.

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        I was a victim of this prank in college. We were on a road trip, sleeping in a lounge at another school and were awakened by a fire alarm. Somehow while we were sleeping a toaster with broken spring appeared on a table, filled with bread we didn’t have. The room filled with smoke, the entire dorm was evacuated, the fire department came.

        After the fact, I realized I was probably explaining the situation to the perpetrators, but I don’t know if my annoyance at stupid prank was still amusing. They did keep straight faces.

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    It’d be a crying shame if the students were required to complete the school year with physical books and a notebook.

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      Normally that’s exactly what they would do if enough students destroyed their computers to blow through the loaners. The frustrating thing is this is happening right when schools are set to do state testing and state testing is mostly online now. This requires every student in the building to have a device at the same time. Normally all the loaners would be for kids who forgot theirs that day.

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    8 days ago

    Youthful rebellion transcends technology.

    Is there much difference between this and, say, using a pen to drill a hole in your desk?

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      Thank you, it’s relieving to see that some people don’t fall for the “kids today” bullshit

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        I’m not so sure about cheaper. A quick google search shows the desks I used in school are priced around $400-$600 depending on type (different subjects had different desks), whereas the Chromebooks are around $250. I definitely agree with your second point, though.

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          i don’t know much about school desk but I can get a nice standing desk for $600. That is nuts.

          Also I wonder if they sell replacement parts.

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            I’m sure the schools don’t pay that much for the desks (or the Chromebooks) since they buy in bulk – those are just the prices I could find for single units. I was more trying to show the difference in price, rather than exactly how much the schools spend.

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              Not even that, but they are simple and repairable. I remember we had these sleigh-style desks (same idea except the seat was one-piece molded plastic) that were a total of four parts (two rails, the seat and the desk top) aside from bolts/hardware, and they had a graveyard of parts to replace pieces as needed. And those desk were tough as all hell.

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                Sounds great, but… unfortunately, it seems impossible to tilt on the chair with those, which I see as an essential part of going to school.

                Also, the heights of the chair and table seem unadjustable, and it seems the pupil is seated too far away from the desktop to actually be comfortable.

                What a useless piece of piss. Yeah, at least it’s repairable, but is such a stupid piece of faulty furniture even worth repairing?

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                  Again, that was the style and not the exact ones we had, but yeah they were all fixed position, however ours weren’t too bad. I dunno, I don’t remember anyone complaining much, I was on the taller side of my peers and fit fine while I recall even the smaller kids were alright too. Id wager a big reason they were chosen was so kids couldn’t balance on the back legs, fall back and crack dome. They were great for cracking your back!

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              And isn’t rendered unusable by a “hole drilled by a pen”. The person comparing a desk to a Chromebook is making a ridiculous comparison.

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            Chromebooks are designed to be cheap and disposable. I’ve seen some as low as ~$100. That doesn’t mean you can’t get some very expensive ones, but since they basically only allow you to use Google and a select few apps from the play store, I don’t know why the expensive ones exist.

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              I used to have one as my primary work device for a few years. Honestly, it was surprisingly usable once you find online analogs for all typical things you do on a computer.

              The biggest issue is you’d be using a free online service for some application, and then they start charging per month or the company goes under and you lose your work, so you have to keep finding new services and exporting your work to a common format that won’t disappear to a central file system like Drive diligently.

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              I got an EOL Chromebook for $50, dropped Mint on it & use it to run a 3D printer instead of a raspberry pi.

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            They are very cheap. We had to buy them ourselves for our kids, which at least gave choices. We settled n $400 because for the cost of the cheapest piece of shit laptop, we could get a high end Chromebook that ran circles around it: faster, much more durable, much lighter, multiple times battery life

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          Also, most school laptops are old. Someone did this at my school and got charged (iirc) $175 since it was the really old kind

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    Fuck chromebooks anyways, Google shouldn’t be allowed to steal so much information about our youth directly from the devices they use at school. They should be using laptops with Linux installed on them, preferably PopOS to preserve the kids privacy.

    I don’t condone damaging school property, although I think it’s a lesser evil to Google’s privacy practices on Chromebooks.

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        Debian works too, it really doesn’t matter as long as its not windows and google Chromebook crap.

        Linux distros aren’t all made the same, but they’re all pretty much the same in spirit. Tux is universal.

        I personally think that Pop!OS is a user friendly distro that would be an easy introduction to Linux for students while also focusing on privacy and security with less clutter.

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      I’m with you, but that’s not the reason these kids are doing this. It’s because they are idiots.

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        Pop!OS is an Ubuntu-based Linux distribution featuring a custom GNOME desktop.

        It is designed to have a minimal amount of clutter on the desktop without distractions in order to allow the user to focus on work.

        This distro was also designed with security and privacy in mind.

        So students can more easily focus on their work while also being more secure and private while using an easy to use interface, I know it’s not the only one but its a good one!

        https://system76.com/pop/security/