• Jin@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    I hear often Nazi this Nazi that? I think it has lost meaning. Can you explain what Nazi is? Vs Nazi from like WW2?

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      5 hours ago

      Some people wouldn’t know a Nazi if he was sending people to camps without trial, trying to outlaw the political opposition, fomenting a cult of personality, launching coups, oppressing the most vulnerable people, ratcheting up racist attacks, and threatening to attack Denmark.

    • gradual@lemmings.world
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      5 hours ago

      The word ‘nazi’ has 100% lost its meaning.

      Might as well just be saying “I don’t like this person or group of people because they disagree with me.”

      • SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one
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        5 hours ago

        Nazis are opposed to the basic human rights of anyone who isn’t a white hetero, usually a man.

        Nazi sympathisers deserve a bullet in the head. That includes you.

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          5 hours ago

          I guess we can start adding ‘nazi sympathizer’ to the list of terms that have lost their meaning.

          Remember, you only have people like yourself to blame.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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      6 hours ago

      As a serious answer, Musk is into modern variants of eugenics and some scary techno-authoritarian stuff he shares with Peter Theil and other Silicon Valley royalty.

      Maybe he’s a techno-neonazi? That’s just semantics.

      His alleged Nazi salute is indeed kind of a red herring. But “Nazi” is an reasonable enough descriptor for his beliefs.

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              4 hours ago

              It really isn’t. It’s not even close. You said I had gold medal mental gymnastics, but you’ve just done another gold medal performance.

              E: but thank you for pointing out my typo

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                3 hours ago

                His gesture is as much of a “Nazi salute” as Elon Musks. They’re either both Nazi salutes, or neither are. No other option.

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                  3 hours ago

                  No, they are nothing alike, at all.

                  You: "either everything is “A” or everything is “B”, there is no alternatives.

                  See how silly that is?

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          4 hours ago

          Tim Waltz does not have eugenics-adjacent beliefs.

          Also, I think you may have misinterpreted what “red herring” means.

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            4 hours ago

            I didn’t misinterpret that, I was simply pointing out that it wasn’t a nazi salute unless you also think Tim Waltz is a nazi.

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              4 hours ago

              And you are bringing up a red herring (salutes) that doesn’t matter, because, well, I don’t know. But that’s the whole point of the saying.

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              4 hours ago

              Yes notice the crisp snappy way waltz did it? With fingers together, and twice so there is no way to doubt what it was? Ohhh wait sorry that was elons.

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                Yeah, elon’s not a nazi…

                …he just wanted to send out a message of hope and support to nazis round the world by siegheiling twice on stage behind the seal of the United States…yeah…

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                  4 hours ago

                  All the nazis saw it as a nazi salute too! They were chuffed! Let’s not ignore his love and support for the afd, and antisemites on Twitter!

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                  4 hours ago

                  Yes, the way you say two, very very different things are the same is certainly gold medal worthy mental gymnastics. Well said.

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        5 hours ago

        Note how Jin, the Nazi Defender (not a Nazi themselves, they just defend people who are justifiably called Nazis) won’t respond to your answer.

        One feature from Reddit I liked was the ability to tag people. Or maybe that was the reddit enhancement suite. But Jin would’ve earned himself a big red “Nazi Defender” tag.

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          5 hours ago

          you can also tag people on Lemmy, or at least I can. look for the About User menu then “Add Tag” or “Tag user” from their profile

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            Hmm… I definitely don’t see an About user menu or Add Tag or Tag User on their profile. Maybe it has something to do with your lemmy browser.

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          5 hours ago

          Nah its much simpler label than that.

          “Troll”

          The topic doesn’t matter, it more about fishing for provocation. In this case I couldn’t help myself, but… you know, don’t feed the trolls.

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      7 hours ago

      If you perform a Nazi salute, you’re a Nazi.

      Musk performed TWO Nazi salutes on national television during a presidential inauguration.

      Musk owns X.

      Anymore questions? Do I need to illustrate with crayons?