We have one person who likely would be genocidal, and one we know would be genocidal.
You’re threatening people not willing to vote for a proven genocidaire with a probable genocidaire.
You get why that isn’t a threat, right? You do understand that the one who is proven already to be genocidal is worse than the person who is probably genocidal, right?
We THINK Trump would be. Personally, I think he would get bored. Trump is lazy. Biden is doing a lot of work to get weapons and money, bypassing various laws, to the Israelis. Israel cannot continue this war without us. We could end it tomorrow. Biden is doing a lot of active work to make sure it continues.
I don’t give half a rats ass if Biden isn’t “proud” of his actions if he continues the hard work of making sure this genocide continues.
Also, if the Democratic Party was as afraid of a Trump presidency as they claim everyone should be, they wouldn’t hand the election to him on a silver fucking platter to continue a fucking genocide.
I’m not going to vote for Trump, I’m not pro Trump, but at this point, I don’t see a path to victory for Biden. Not one. And it’s the Democratic Parties fault, not the fault of leftists, as I know everyone is going to say once he does lose.
“Basic logic” in a philosophical sense, sure. But it seems removed from reality.
Frankly, I don’t think this is about Biden or Trump. It’s about the US. But either way, there’s a difference between the person who is doing it, and the person who explicitly says they would also be doing it, and doing it more.
Maybe the US is already at maximum capacity for what it can do for Israel. Then there’s no difference between Trump and Biden.
Maybe under Trump, more money and resources would be diverted to Israel (e.g. stopping all support for Ukraine). Then it’d be worse under Trump.
I think that the position of “Maybe Trump wouldn’t do genocide even though he said he would and also said he’d do a better job of Palestine” exists only in some absurd fantasy. Realistically, you have a choice between “The same amount of genocide” and “The same OR MORE amount of genocide”.
If you’re okay with the same or more genocide just to spite the same amount of genocide, then that’s your prerogative. It seems silly to me though to be a single issue voter and be okay with the one who wants to make your single issue worse.
If my single issue was abortion rights, I’d choose the one who wants to restrict abortion access rather than help win the election for the one who wants to outright ban abortion. I would lament the lack of an option that better represents what I want, but I’d choose a step forward over a step back. Or even not taking a step over a step back.
Right now, doctors are amputating the limbs off of Palestinian prisoners that have died (the limbs not the prisoners, though there is plenty of the latter happening too) due to blood loss because they’ve been zip tied for months.
Even the word genocide is a fun little rhetorical trick. A distancing word, a nice way to ignore the blood, stench, and human suffering. You don’t have to see the dead children, smell their decomposing bodies, or see the parents that don’t even get to mourn over their bodies because they’ve been desecrated be being crushed under tanks.
You’re a pathetic fuck that thinks it you’re just nice enough to the torturer, they won’t turn on you.
This is genocide.
No one involved can be allowed to walk away from this. This is the crime of crimes, and those responsible have to face consequences.
The Democratic Parties logic is the same as a kidnapper blaming the death of their victim on the person who wouldn’t pay. ‘Look at what you made me do!’ We didn’t force the DNC to field the man responsible for the murder of somewhere around 30,000 children.
They chose to do that.
You’re choosing to ignore the blood dripping from their hands as you defend a child murderer, and even have the disgusting gall to imply he’s decent because he feels bad about it.
He could stop this tomorrow. He hasn’t.
And you’re obviously so privileged that you have no idea of the human abattoir you’re asking every one else to ignore to maintain your privilege.
You want to be complicit? Go ahead. Wash the blood off of your hands with your self righteousness. It won’t protect you.
The ones willing to commit genocide never stop with those they started killing first.
You want to prevent fascism in America? You’re already too late.
We have one person who likely would be genocidal, and one we know would be genocidal.
You’re threatening people not willing to vote for a proven genocidaire with a probable genocidaire.
You get why that isn’t a threat, right? You do understand that the one who is proven already to be genocidal is worse than the person who is probably genocidal, right?
The ONLY way that Trump would not continue the genocide in Palestine if elected is if it were already done.
I haven’t been following any statements by Biden, but he doesn’t exactly seem proud about the genocide. Trump is.
It’s not like I’m saying “He’s a Republican, of course he’d support Israel!”. There is evidence against Trump personally.
Jesus, this is basic logic.
We KNOW Biden is.
We THINK Trump would be. Personally, I think he would get bored. Trump is lazy. Biden is doing a lot of work to get weapons and money, bypassing various laws, to the Israelis. Israel cannot continue this war without us. We could end it tomorrow. Biden is doing a lot of active work to make sure it continues.
I don’t give half a rats ass if Biden isn’t “proud” of his actions if he continues the hard work of making sure this genocide continues.
Also, if the Democratic Party was as afraid of a Trump presidency as they claim everyone should be, they wouldn’t hand the election to him on a silver fucking platter to continue a fucking genocide.
I’m not going to vote for Trump, I’m not pro Trump, but at this point, I don’t see a path to victory for Biden. Not one. And it’s the Democratic Parties fault, not the fault of leftists, as I know everyone is going to say once he does lose.
“Basic logic” in a philosophical sense, sure. But it seems removed from reality.
Frankly, I don’t think this is about Biden or Trump. It’s about the US. But either way, there’s a difference between the person who is doing it, and the person who explicitly says they would also be doing it, and doing it more.
Maybe the US is already at maximum capacity for what it can do for Israel. Then there’s no difference between Trump and Biden.
Maybe under Trump, more money and resources would be diverted to Israel (e.g. stopping all support for Ukraine). Then it’d be worse under Trump.
I think that the position of “Maybe Trump wouldn’t do genocide even though he said he would and also said he’d do a better job of Palestine” exists only in some absurd fantasy. Realistically, you have a choice between “The same amount of genocide” and “The same OR MORE amount of genocide”.
If you’re okay with the same or more genocide just to spite the same amount of genocide, then that’s your prerogative. It seems silly to me though to be a single issue voter and be okay with the one who wants to make your single issue worse.
If my single issue was abortion rights, I’d choose the one who wants to restrict abortion access rather than help win the election for the one who wants to outright ban abortion. I would lament the lack of an option that better represents what I want, but I’d choose a step forward over a step back. Or even not taking a step over a step back.
Not at the cost of genocide.
Right now, doctors are amputating the limbs off of Palestinian prisoners that have died (the limbs not the prisoners, though there is plenty of the latter happening too) due to blood loss because they’ve been zip tied for months.
Even the word genocide is a fun little rhetorical trick. A distancing word, a nice way to ignore the blood, stench, and human suffering. You don’t have to see the dead children, smell their decomposing bodies, or see the parents that don’t even get to mourn over their bodies because they’ve been desecrated be being crushed under tanks.
You’re a pathetic fuck that thinks it you’re just nice enough to the torturer, they won’t turn on you.
This is genocide.
No one involved can be allowed to walk away from this. This is the crime of crimes, and those responsible have to face consequences.
The Democratic Parties logic is the same as a kidnapper blaming the death of their victim on the person who wouldn’t pay. ‘Look at what you made me do!’ We didn’t force the DNC to field the man responsible for the murder of somewhere around 30,000 children.
They chose to do that.
You’re choosing to ignore the blood dripping from their hands as you defend a child murderer, and even have the disgusting gall to imply he’s decent because he feels bad about it.
He could stop this tomorrow. He hasn’t.
And you’re obviously so privileged that you have no idea of the human abattoir you’re asking every one else to ignore to maintain your privilege.
You want to be complicit? Go ahead. Wash the blood off of your hands with your self righteousness. It won’t protect you.
The ones willing to commit genocide never stop with those they started killing first.
You want to prevent fascism in America? You’re already too late.