• cygnus@lemmy.ca
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    21 hours ago

    the cultural change around me has appeared, to me at least, both frighteningly rapid and preternaturally inexplicable.

    It looks more like the humanist change of the 60s though to 2016-ish was the anomaly (at least in the US) and what we’re seeing today was always present but people just kept their views hidden.

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        15 hours ago

        With overwhelming force, until they’re so far gone they can never return. Don’t make the mistake liberals keep making of winning one (1) major victory and going home, letting the problem fester

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        15 hours ago

        The reality is you don’t. Looking back at human history this is the natural order. This is how civilizations begin their descent. They forget what made them great and begin to assume their greatness is innate. Resting on their laurels, so to speak.

        It would be remarkable if you could drive them back. But the US and the West has lived with incredibly disproportionate prosperity for a long time now, at the expense of the rest of the world, and it would be incredibly naive to assume it would last forever.

        The past 75 years have marked global collaboration and growth in a way humanity has never seen before. But it was only a matter of time for us to reach a point where we could no longer satiate the greed of the wealthiest among us.

        They know that this period of mutual prosperity could never be indefinite so they want to ensure we are as divided as possible when the gauntlet drops.

        If you want to put the cat back in the bag, so to speak, you would need to convince the average person that social media without guardrails is rotting their brains but they’re too busy doomscrolling and consuming, while being fed a steady diet of hatred, to maintain division.

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        It’s a catch 22 and virtuous/u virtuous cycle of good education and environmental contributors that don’t encourage these always present and tempting weaknesses in humanity:

        *Wealth distribution: in economics with very unequal distribution of wealth many are told there constantly isn’t enough. This mindset drives horrible behavior in humans dating back to our reptilian brain core. *Visibility and attainability of meritocracy vs. corruption, cronyism and/or Nepotism

        We’ve had powerful interests poisoning the well for going on 160 years in the south after the civil war, corporations’ ascendence since aligned perfectly with the South’s desire to weaken the federal state. Now instead of destroying it, they’ve subsumed it and will repurpose it for fully anti-democratic aims and accelerate already strong perceptions of federal government ineffectiveness thanks to 40 years of neoliberal abandonment of the common person’s needs in pursuit of corporate donations for the Democratic party.

        It’s either civil war, an authoritarian state that might be very long or short lived depending on your preference of dystopian movies or magical and dramatic recapture of political power and agency of the American public. The last one seems the least likely in the short term.

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        21 hours ago

        It’s a Pandora’s box. You don’t put that shit back in the box. You just learn to live with it.

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          20 hours ago

          I dunno. They were driven underground before. How did our grandfathers manage that‽

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            17 hours ago

            With violence, though a lot of spaces will tell you it’s gauche to talk about violence. Stern words only.

            Also, as a USian, even though my grandparents fought the Nazis the US was still garbage at home.