Why? Just why?

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    7 months ago

    Not good, Bob. Not good. However,

    the new F-15s would need to be built from scratch and would likely not be delivered to Israel for 4-5 years.

    The Biden administration also quietly authorized a sale of F-35 fighter jets to Israel last week, the sources said. That sale did not require congressional notification because the intended sale was already notified to Congress in 2008.

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    7 months ago

    I mean… this is horrifically shitty timing but doesn’t really impact the genocide in Gaza at all.

    Even if these were being delivered “whole” (which they aren’t), the utility of air superiority fighters to continue to level a 139 square mile open air prison is almost zero.

    This is all about neighboring countries that might attack. We already have had a decent number of allegedly Iranian puppeted terror groups launch rockets against Israel (and the US…) as part of this conflict. And whether we jerk netanyahu off while he commits geneocide or not, a war involving nuclear powers that further destabilizes The Middle East is in nobody’s interests.

    So this is really just normal US gun running.

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      7 months ago

      How does supporting a state actively engaging in genocide not enable them continue? The mental gymnastics around this are astounding

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        7 months ago

        you know, ethnically-speaking the Palestinians are just Arab
        it’s not the hardest thing in the world to research nobody is trying to wipe out all the Arabs, and calling it genocide is probably just pissing Israel off
        educate yourself a little and stop buying into the propaganda: https://time.com/4084301/hitler-grand-mufi-1941/

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      7 months ago

      We cant even send F-16s to Ukraine, and we’re sending the best of the best to Israel. F35s can be used for bombing very easily.

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        7 months ago

        F-15, not F-35.

        But even if we were sending F-35s: Gaza is 139 square miles. Even General T-Swizzle Herself would question the need to use jets to attack that when modern artillery is accurate enough to cause pinpoint collateral damage within a hundred mile radius.

        So the F-15 has no meaningful impact on the current genocide.

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      7 months ago

      The thought occurs to me that if those neighboring countries decide to use force against Israel to stop the genocide against fellow Muslims, Israel will use these fighters in that war, and the US will have provided those fighters.

      So yeah, they won’t be used directly for genocide, just used by a country doing a genocide. We didn’t send arms to Nazi Germany even before joining the war, we shouldn’t send arms to Israel now.

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        7 months ago

        It looks like the intent is to deter any of the neighbouring countries from interfering with Isreal’s ongoing genocide.

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    7 months ago

    ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    No fighter jets for so called NATO backed ally against Russia. But genocidal regime? No problem so long as you have cash money.

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      7 months ago

      No problem so long as you have cash money.

      And you have the money, because it was sent to you (multiple times) before the offer to sell you the jets. Just great.

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        7 months ago

        Nah Genocide Joe gave israel 2.5 Billion American taxpayer dollars for free and 15 Billion more in the pipeline.

        He will make sure to refund israel any “damaged explosives” a few months after the fact.

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          7 months ago

          If you think Trump or any other president wouldn’t have done the same thing, you’re a fool.

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                  7 months ago

                  If you think Israel is well armed because of 3 years of Joe Biden, I don’t know what to tell you.

                  Any remarks on Hamas or the Palestinians who voted a terrorist organization into power in their government? Not that I think Israel’s response is congruent with the initial attacks at this point, but how long do you deal with that before you go all in?

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              I’m sorry you feel this way but the problems your going through aren’t Bidens doing, you probably haven’t given him enough credit tbh.

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    7 months ago

    They don’t need more of them. Their current ones are not at risk of getting shot down.

    Unlike a certain other country that REALLY needs support.

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    7 months ago

    If Biden loses to Trump, this will probably be one of the reasons why. Then, after Trump wins without the popular vote, he’ll just continue doing the same shit Biden did in this regard. Great system.

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      7 months ago

      If Biden loses to Trump because people won’t vote for Biden or would vote for Trump instead then Americans deserve Trump because he actually represents them. Just in case it’s not clear, if the majority of people are morons, don’t be surprised if a moron wins the election.

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        7 months ago

        …Americans deserve Trump because he actually represents them.

        The only way Trump actually wins is without the popular vote. I also believe the US deserves Trump, but for different reasons. Mainly because I think the system is completely fucked knowing that a past president who was impeached twice can win again with out the popular vote.