A coalition of 22 state attorneys general is calling on Congress to address “the glaring vagueness” that has led to legal cannabis products being sold over the counter across the country — including sometimes from vending machines or online.

letter dated March 20 addresses the consequences of Republican lawmakers’ choice to legalize hemp production in the 2018 omnibus Farm Bill — a decision that perhaps inadvertently led to a multibillion-dollar market in intoxicating cannabis products that are arguably federally legal.

Now, the attorneys general want Congress to shutter the market it helped create. In the new Farm Bill, they want the legislature to enshrine in statute the idea that intoxicating cannabis is not federally legal — contrary to what the law currently states.

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    I get an ounce delivered to my mailbox on a monthly subscription and occasionally order extra when something goes on sale. I keep trying to share about legal weed on lemmy whenever the topic comes up, but i just get downvoted. I don’t know if people think it can’t be real or just want something to bitch about.

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      Sounds like not real weed because if it was, the DEA would be all over that shit……so probably not what you get from a rec or medical dispensary.

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          It’s hemp, so low THC, so doesn’t do a whole lot.

          It’s better than nothing, technically, but you’re basically buying oregano all over again in middle school.

          It’s ok, it works for you, but it’s not real weed, I would call it gas station weed lol

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            My subscription is type 2 (thc+cbd) and i buy type 1 (high thc) when there’s a good strain on sale. Both are legally available at the links i shared. Not sure about gas station weed - i haven’t seen that.

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              I hear you, but you are smoking hemp, not real weed. It’s classified as such as there is low THC, as in, not real weed. When I say real weed, I mean what the DEA says is real weed, not what some random company is selling. You aren’t going to jail in your illegal state for weed with your hemp.

              You can go read all about it on the wiki, but again, you aren’t smoking real weed nor getting high.

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                A good friend of mine was telling me the same thing as we were hitting my bong. I blew his mind when I told him we were smoking the very stuff he was claiming wasn’t real. He admitted he could not tell any difference at all and would not have known had I not told him. I had to show him the packaging because he thought I was kidding.

                He couldn’t tell a difference because there is no functional difference the instant heat is applied to it. THCa is the natural precursor to THC in cannabis. It becomes regular old THC the instant heat is applied to it.

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                  You are still just smoking hemp, and unlikely actually getting high. I’m sorry you don’t really understand it either like the first person I pointed this out to.

                  THCa does not get you high, that’s why it’s legally allowed to be grown in America because it’s not an illegal substance….as it is not psychoactive.

                  THC converts down from THCa when you combust it, so even if there is a large THCa concentration, it results in a low THC amount and not getting you high like you’d expect.

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        My subscription is from Hoku Seed Co. Several other places have started doing subscriptions also… I think flow gardens and maybe holy city. Other than hoku, I usually buy from flow or eight horses hemp. I use a dry herb vape mostly at home. When I want a pocket vape, I buy from secret garden.

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          I’ll definitely check it out. I just purchased a vaporizer and I don’t care for it but it’s probably user error.

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      Possibly because I’m from a legal state and wasn’t paying attention to it, but I’m not sure what you’re talking about if you care to expound?

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        Republicunts did not read or maybe comprehend a bill they passed during the Trump years which accidentally legalized THC products derived from hemp or products that technically are hemp and not cannabis because the delta 9 THC concentration is low enough.

        From my also limited understanding cannabis can be harvested early before the delta 9 thc crystals form… from the precursor THCa already present in the plant

        THCa on its own is not psychoactive however it breaks down into normal THC when exposed to sunlight … or heat when you smoke/vape it

        So you can buy legal (for now) basically weed in the form of high thca flower and have it shipped to your mailbox.

        Im considering anonymously buying some online and having it shipped to my states AG office because fuck that dude needs to smoke some weed

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        Look up thca. Essentially cannabis doesn’t have thc until it’s burned, which the law targets. It’s technically full of thca which is generally referred to as thc. So companies are selling thca products with tests showing thc itself below the 3% limit because it’s technically legal.

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          The total THC test is early enough that it isn’t yet present. After that, only ∆9 is tested. It’s all the same thca you would get in a dispensary. DEA asked courts to change the testing requirement and limits. Court said the law is written as intended. There are many farms that sell online through their own websites or through other vendors. I’m in Texas and I’ve had so much delivered without a single problem. I had 5 lb delivered to my porch in one order– it was in big plastic bags in boxes. That order was mostly CBD and CBG, but still smelled weedy. I’m more worried about the neighborhood kids stealing it than I am about the USPS or FedEx.

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            Thanks for the additional insight. The package thief paranoia with these boxes is real! Feel you there

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          They don’t make you feel the same way as the normal weed you are used to though. I have gotten them when I can’t get the real stuff and it’s just not the same. I wish it was.

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            We’ve had some delta-8 edibles that up the concentration so high it’s silly. We were cutting them in half and that was getting us higher than some delta-9 stuff. Then we noticed that the bag actually recommends a whole one wtf. If those fucking things are legal, I don’t know why we’re arguing about the rest.

            There’s some new workarounds on the market that take it further. The law is that you can’t have any more than 0.3% delta 9 by dry weight. Well, 10mg / 0.003 = 3.3g, so you can pack 10mg of delta9 into a gummy as long as its dry weight is about 3g, which isn’t much.

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              Some of the THCa stuff has gotten me couch-lock high, but I agree with RagingRobot, the high doesn’t feel the same. I’ve tried many different THCa/THCo, Delta 8, and Delta 10 products and the overarching trend with all of them was a high that typically only lasted 30 mins (compared to an hour with Delta 9) and they’re almost always just an intense head high that makes me feel uncomfortably stuffy. I haven’t had a single non-delta 9 product that felt anything close to the more natural high’s you get from the various types/blends of Delta 9.

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                Thca=∆9. I avoid the rest (∆8, 10, etc.) because of the chemicals used in processing.

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                  3 Tall Pines Farm does not use chemicals in their extraction process, if you are looking for a chemical free company.

                  They specialize in a heat/pressure-only extraction process and include COA’s for solvents and residuals to prove their products are clean.

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            I agree it’s not one to one, but I’ve questioned how much if that is the drying, curing and process of getting it to me. Also they used boveda packs which didn’t help. The ones I’ve tried. But I think the post saying it’s due to an early chop sounds right. Probably not enough amber crystals which is when I would assume actual thc gets tested. It’s more complex than I made it seem I’m sure but I think as far as the loophole goes its along those lines. On a related note I’ve been trying thca concentrates and that is definitely more comparable, which makes me think it’s how they’re processing the flower that makes a difference.

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              DON’T SHARE THAT LINK!!

              they already have problems keeping inventory and I’m selfish lmao

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                I know. I hesitated before I did it but then I felt guilty… Sharing is caring.

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          I think people are still scared especially in states that have a hardon for locking up anyone that remotely does anything but otc drugs.

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            I’m not fully sure but believe this is a “if you want federal money then you’ll accept these terms” deal, sort of like how all states have to set the drinking age to 21 or lose out on highway money.