• reddithalation@sopuli.xyz
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    8 months ago

    i think i’ve seen it used to demo different image compression algorithms, things like that. it was used as an easy example test image, but this journal has now banned papers from using it because it is weird and creepy to be using cropped porn for that. this won’t benefit the model, but she was only pushing to ban it because she wants more women in IT fields.

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        8 months ago

        It’s the sample image and dozens of other things. For example: people telling them they’re too sensitive for life because they’re feeling uncomfortable looking at softcore porn while doing their work or research.

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          8 months ago

          The full picture is never used in academia, let me assure you of that. If it weren’t for articles like these, most people would not know where it even came from or that the model was nude in the first place. Not defending the use of the picture, strange choice of a test picture for sure, if you know where it comes from but wanted to give you some context.

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        8 months ago

        To end this, I will subject myself to being the test image. We’ll crop on my o-face while I’m doing your mom and your dad is a cuck in the corner.

        What? Some people would call that art. And it will just be my face. We won’t see your dad with anal beads and cock cage in the picture.

        If we only see my face in the picture what is the problem? Only you will know that the only time your mom could orgasm was with me.

        You are strong enough to handle using this new picture, right?

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        8 months ago

        If you thought that making this comment was a good idea, you may be too misogynistic for life.

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      8 months ago

      This is not porn; it’s an art. There is nothing creepy about it. Moreover, if this picture is the reason why women aren’t in this field, then there is definitely a more serious problem, but it’s not where you are looking.

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        To end this, I will subject myself to being the test image. We’ll crop on my o-face while I’m doing your mom and your dad is a cuck in the corner.

        What? Some people would call that art. And it will just be my face. We won’t see your dad with anal beads and cock cage in the picture.

        If we only see my face in the picture what is the problem? Only you will know that the only time your mom could orgasm was with me.

        You are strong enough to handle using this new picture, right?

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        8 months ago

        Full picture (NSFW) https://mypmates.club/1972/Miss-November/Lena-Soderberg

        It’s art, but it’s also porn. Those aren’t mutually exclusive. It’s from Playboy, which is a porn magazine. Look at it all you want, but it isn’t appropriate for research papers. There are plenty of alternatives.

        Edit: Part of the reason more women aren’t in the field is because they’re often seen as pieces of meat. They’re objectified. They don’t use any cropped male nude photos for test images, because the men weren’t lusting over them. It’s used because it was a field ruled by men, and women were often treated as objects.

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          8 months ago

          The thing is, there is no universal definition of pornography. It varies from country to country. In my country, it doesn’t fulfill some of the criteria, in particular because:

          • It does not depict human genital organs in their sexual functions
          • It does not solely focus on the technical aspects of sexuality and sexual life, completely detached from the intellectual and personal layers

          The more important thing is that the cropped version of the picture (which was used in the research papers) does not fulfill any criteria to be classified as pornography or even as nude art. Some don’t even know that this is only part of a nude photo. I saw this cropped picture in the 90s and was surprised later in the early 2000s by the full version.

          I would say more. This is an example where some random nude photo became something more because it became part of science. So it’s rather an example of “deobjectification” because this picture is focused on her face in the hat, and not her reproductive organs.

          Regarding objectification, the picture of any kind has nothing to do with women being objectified. Any person may be objectified only by being treated by another person or group of people as an object. For example, a cleaning lady may be objectified by one employer who does not treat her like a living, feeling person, but not by another employer. The same applies to sex workers and any other profession. It is our attitude that determines whether we objectify someone, not the picture of a woman in a hat.

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            8 months ago

            Pretend for a moment that you’re a woman. You go to the office and the men are openly sharing around a porn magazine with no concern. Does that seem like a safe professional workplace? That’s essentially what this represents. It isn’t what’s happening anymore, but it is the origin.

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        8 months ago

        It’s both. It’s artsy softcore pornography.

        I certainly don’t think the full version would be appropriate, but I’m ambivalent about the cropped version.

        I don’t think people should get their knickers in a twist about sex in the first place.