At this point, I’m not even going to bother trying to go on there anymore.

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      It’s easy to disable a VPN remotely though, especially on handheld devices.

      All you need to is to point the user to a post or a website that is bloated with JS and contains high rez images and/or video.

      The device then has to either begin paging memory like crazy - or more likely - begins to kill background processes that it thinks are not used by the foreground apps (e.g. your VPN).

      For newer smartphones this is less of an issue, since their RAM can handle it. For > 5 year old smartphones though? They might struggle.

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          And for that, Android has a VPN killswitch function since Nougat, which has never failed. You can turn it on for whatever VPN/firewall you use.

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            Hmm, I’ve had that fail on some cheap Chinese phones. They have other software that kills things in the background irrespective of the setting. I developed a VPN client and was never truly able to solve this problem on some low memory devices.

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              The VPN may get killed, but the killswitch in network stack prevents any connection outside, unless you have some really weird noname phone with poorly developed custom Android build. If you have any brand phone you hear, Google, Huawei, Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Oneplus, Asus or any such big name, I do not think this issue will occur, atleast I have not heard or seen this on any decent budget specced device. Besides, I think having a device with less than 3-4 GB RAM is going to cause issues, because they are computers just in handheld form.

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        If you run a VPN app, you can use AFWall to force all traffic through the VPN. So if the VPN app isn’t running for some reason, the apps set to only go through the VPN service will have no internet access.

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        You run your VPN on your router to fix this. Then every device on your network are forced through the tunnel, and this risk does not exist.

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        Android has a VPN killswitch function since version 7 Nougat, which never fails. If your firewall/VPN gets killed in memory, your internet connection ceases to work until it is turned on and connected again.

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          In theory, yes. In practice, I can definitely tell you that the kill-switch service gets killed too, despite whatever level of niceness it’s assigned.

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            I can definitely tell you that the kill-switch service gets killed too

            Can you provide proof of your dangerous claims? Killswitch is in Android/AOSP as part of system networking stack.

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                Nowhere does that person say they used this option. These options appear when you hold tap VPN/firewall app you set in VPN settings.

                Also, did they whitelist it from whatever battery saver phone has? Or disabled PowerGenie stuff? And used that little “keep app in memory” thing like this?

                I force killed my both firewalls and this happened. The same stays when phone restarts until both firewalls are up and running.

                Now, tell me about that claim you made…

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                  I’m happy it works flawless for you man, and I’m sure on official Lineage builds which are as close as possible to AOSP things work exactly as you say.

                  I have an unofficial Lineage 18 ROM patched to hell to work with my old phone. All I can do is tell you what I see, and what I see is that when my phone tries to play a 720p or higher video, with an impossibly high bit-rate for the phone, the phone starts to aggressively background-kill apps, and that includes my VPN.

                  Again, happy it works for you, and I agree that in principle the default route should point to nothing if the VPN dies. On my device, when the virtual network device of the VPN goes down, it drops to the default network and finds another gateway.

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    Same issue. I guess I’m never going back there. I’ve already stopped doing it, but from time to time a question I was researching let me to Reddit.

    What’s the best tool to delete your account, while also overriding all of your posts and comments?

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    These assholes forget that people need to use VPNs in many situations. All the bitch ass corporate folks that never have to use their computers in a coffee shop, etc. Fuck spez.

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      You can still use the site via VPN if you’re logged in. Which is really the entire point. They don’t actually care if you’re using a VPN; It’s just another method to force people to make an account, so the “active accounts” number looks good to shareholders.

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        Then Reddit’s notice should say that instead of scolding sbout VPNs. This problem is not simply with Reddit and a login, it is pervasive. Hell, even lemmy.world blocks vpn connections from making new comments, often.

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          Lemmy.world handles that particularly poorly, probably because they’re a nonprofit with a shoestring budget.

          The most obvious improvement would be to accept comments when the account meets a certain age and activity threshold.

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          Then Reddit’s notice should say that instead of scolding sbout VPNs.

          It-… Uhh… It does say that. It’s literally the second sentence in the body of the notice, and even has a link to create an account. Did you even read past the title?

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              It doesn’t actually mention VPNs at all. It simply says you were blocked due to a network policy, and offers potential solutions ranging from “try logging in” to “if you’re doing fucky things with your user agent, maybe try not doing fucky things with your user agent.”

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                  Your point was that it’s scolding users for using a VPN. It’s explicitly not doing that. Yes, they’re actively working against VPN usage, but your original statement was still incorrect.

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      It goes much deeper than just coffee shops and other public wifi. There are people in oppressive countries that have to use VPNs to get around their country-wide bans of certain sites, such as anything that provides access to information. Reddit used to be a sanction for tons of information sharing. But now, with Reddit going public, they have to appeal to their shareholders, who probably have business or other deals in those oppressive countries. So, even if Reddit is simply trying to force users to be trackable, it still behooves the shareholders to make information and knowledge more difficult to access to certain people.

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    Started? Been having that issue for months now. It only works on VPN if you’re logged on.

    Certain VPN servers can go through it they haven’t implemented a block for it yet. AirVPN launched some new servers that worked for a bit, but Reddit blocked them a few weeks later.

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      They started also blocking OLD.reddit.com this week. I made a comment a couple months ago alluding to old.reddit.com still working even though they were blocking tor and known VPNs on www.reddit.com. I’m sure about 10,000 other people figured it out at the same time as me, since it was such a simple bypass, and I’m surprised it took this long to fix.

      There are still at least 2 other unpatched ways.

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        Can someone tell me how they would know if someone uses a VPN to access their site? I believe OpenVPN has a way to make traffic look like normal HTTPS traffic

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          It’s not about anti-censorship (making your VPN traffic look like regular traffic) it’s about the IP address at the end of the VPN connection. They have a list of known VPN provider IP ranges and block those. If you run a proxy server or VPN on a your own private VPS for example, then it won’t be detected.

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        old.reddit.com is the only Reddit website I use. I have have every reddit link automatically redirect to that website as well. I haven’t been able to access old.reddit.com for months on most servers of 3 different VPNs I’ve used.

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          I have the same experience, but mostly from VPN servers located in Singapore. They’re all blocked, or protected by some Cloudflare CAPTCHAS that seem to be much harder to pass than those of the early 2010s.

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      I think its a move to keep banned people out, as old reddit was the loophole people used to make new accounts. can’t create an account via VPN on old reddit if you can’t access without being logged in

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    Huh, interesting. I was wondering why twitter wasn’t loading in my browser and it’s because I was behind the duckduckgo VPN. I guess this is a thing websites will be doing now.