I disagree with people that decided not to vote, but standing in line for 4 hours, in bad weather, just to have an option between two genocidal, child-killing parties that are gonna work lock-step into screwing over the working class? or for the chance to vote for a third party that won’t get elected?
Nah, I can disagree with the non-voters, but I also understand why they aren’t interested. You are correct, voting isn’t supposed to be a love-letter. Its supposed to be support for a political system. But if both of the major players in that policital system are gonna screw you over, I can understand the apathy.
I don’t see how accurately representing something is a strawman, but you do you
I feel like saying “please don’t bomb children”, or “please don’t support a genocide”, or “please make healthcare affordable”, or “make the rich pay taxes” is a far cry from “cater to me or else”. Those seem like very reasonable requests to me. Maybe if the Dems (the ones with the money, the power, and the platform) actually listened when their voter-base warned them, we wouldn’t be in the “or else” scenario.
Fun fact: You’ll never ever be able to affect any of the change you want by giving up, not participating & convincing others to do the same.
Instead of voting for the party that was at least amenable to curbing Israel, was amenable to continuing aid, they indirectly supported the fascist that literally said he wanted to pave Gaza & build resorts.
And yes, as far as the election math is concerned, that’s exactly what happened.
Fun fact: I never did those things, so I’m not sure why that’s relevant. I said I disagree with non-voters, but I understand where they are coming from. I think they still should be voting.
Instead of voting for the party that was at least amenable to curbing Israel, was amenable to continuing aid, they indirectly supported the fascist that literally said he wanted to pave Gaza & build resorts.
Amenable? They openly and explicitly said they were going to keep backing Israel no matter what. In fact, they chose to lose the election instead of give up support for genocide.
I wish I had the day I voted for. I voted for housing and healthcare for all, taxing the rich, and defunding war. Instead we have Trump, because the Democrats wanted money, power, and genocide instead of fighting for their citizens.
Depressing to see so many liberals still utterly refusing to understand the point. It’s like ‘you voted for this’ is stuck on loop in their head and they can’t comprehend conversation with someone that doesn’t apply to.
Yeah, I understand their frustration. I think many of them are blinded by anger. And I think they should be angry, but I think they are angry at the wrong people. Instead of being angry at people who vote against things like genocide, they should be angry at their political leaders for running in support of unpopular things like genocide.
I disagree with people that decided not to vote, but standing in line for 4 hours, in bad weather, just to have an option between two genocidal, child-killing parties that are gonna work lock-step into screwing over the working class? or for the chance to vote for a third party that won’t get elected?
Nah, I can disagree with the non-voters, but I also understand why they aren’t interested. You are correct, voting isn’t supposed to be a love-letter. Its supposed to be support for a political system. But if both of the major players in that policital system are gonna screw you over, I can understand the apathy.
But you certainly don’t understand that.
Strawman argument followed by the backwards, “cater to me or else”, thinking that got us Trump.
Well Spanky, this is your “or else”. I hope you’re enjoying it.
I don’t see how accurately representing something is a strawman, but you do you
I feel like saying “please don’t bomb children”, or “please don’t support a genocide”, or “please make healthcare affordable”, or “make the rich pay taxes” is a far cry from “cater to me or else”. Those seem like very reasonable requests to me. Maybe if the Dems (the ones with the money, the power, and the platform) actually listened when their voter-base warned them, we wouldn’t be in the “or else” scenario.
Fun fact: You’ll never ever be able to affect any of the change you want by giving up, not participating & convincing others to do the same.
Instead of voting for the party that was at least amenable to curbing Israel, was amenable to continuing aid, they indirectly supported the fascist that literally said he wanted to pave Gaza & build resorts.
And yes, as far as the election math is concerned, that’s exactly what happened.
I hope you have the day you voted for.
Fun fact: I never did those things, so I’m not sure why that’s relevant. I said I disagree with non-voters, but I understand where they are coming from. I think they still should be voting.
Amenable? They openly and explicitly said they were going to keep backing Israel no matter what. In fact, they chose to lose the election instead of give up support for genocide.
I wish I had the day I voted for. I voted for housing and healthcare for all, taxing the rich, and defunding war. Instead we have Trump, because the Democrats wanted money, power, and genocide instead of fighting for their citizens.
LOL, your argument is with math, not me.
I hope you have the day you voted for.
Math has nothing to do with it. My argument is against a political party that screws over it’s voting base. I don’t see how math fits into that.
Again, I wish I had the day that I voted for as well, but I’m not going to get it because of said political party.
Depressing to see so many liberals still utterly refusing to understand the point. It’s like ‘you voted for this’ is stuck on loop in their head and they can’t comprehend conversation with someone that doesn’t apply to.
Yeah, I understand their frustration. I think many of them are blinded by anger. And I think they should be angry, but I think they are angry at the wrong people. Instead of being angry at people who vote against things like genocide, they should be angry at their political leaders for running in support of unpopular things like genocide.