• Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Is it now the norm to make the term WiFi synonymous with the term cellular/mobile data (or 4g/5g)

    They are not the same thing.

    Is this like when people call tablets ipads? Or call vacuums hoovers/dysons.

    • Obi@sopuli.xyz
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      6 months ago

      I’d say these examples are different, more like Kleenex where brand names become the common term. This is more like when parents used to buy a Wii game for your “playbox station”.

    • Croquette@sh.itjust.works
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      6 months ago

      There is a term, that I am too lazy to search, that when a brand or technology is so widespread or used, that the name of the brand or technology becomes the word used to describe anything that ressemble that brand or technology.

      Wi-Fi and iPads are definitely some of those.

      • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Well, that sort of highlights my issue and why i assume they meant mobile data. If they are, in the joke, connected to WiFi, then they wouldn’t be surprised by the signal strength. Because they are near a router and therfore the signal is good enough to use. You aren’t typically able to connect to WiFi if the signal is below -70 -80 decibels.

        I think its fairly clear that they meant mobile data as this is something you would be surprised to still have if you were lost in a cave.

        Not that i wouldn’t be surprised to find WiFi down there, just that i wouldn’t be surprised by the strength of the WiFi signal if i was standing close enough to a router to see the SSID.

          • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            Well, it wasn’t the best joke to begin with. I doubt anyone gave it more than a …ha… when they read it.

            Do you?

            Did you?

            • Confused_Emus@lemmy.world
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              6 months ago

              I bet you’re every comedian’s favorite heckler at the comedy club.

              It’s a joke, not a cock - don’t take it so deep. If it’s not funny, glance over it and move on. Like Don Quixote tilting at mediocrely humored windmills.

              • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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                6 months ago

                Hey, fair enough, dont really heckle comedians. Its their show, unless its something they actively seek in their audience, i wouldn’t think about it.

                I didnt mean to over analyse the joke, i just asked a question about the synonimity of WiFi and mobile data and was challenged on the intent behind the use of the word WiFi, so i responded with my take on what was intended. It wasn’t to ruin the joke. It was to validate my question about the use of WiFi when i believe they meant mobile data.

                Frankly you are the one who made it about ruining the joke.

    • FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      I know people who don’t know what an Ethernet cable is.

      Internet = wifi / mobile data. And that’s it as far as they are concerned

      Routers, modems, switches, bandwidth, Ethernet etc. That’s all just mysterious mumbo jumbo nerd shit. They only know that wifi = the symbol on their phone and that it makes their apps load. It’s crazy.

      • Transporter Room 3@startrek.website
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        6 months ago

        This is my wife.

        She calls mobile data “wifi”

        She calls the internet “the wifi” when talking about our specific connection. “is the wifi bill paid yet” even when talking about the internet on my ethernet connections, it’s still “the wifi”

    • 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 months ago

      I think they specifically mean Wi-Fi, not confusing it with cellular.

      I would be surprised too if I went into a cave and suddenly my phone is connected to Wi-Fi. Where are the access points? Who is running internet all the way out here? I don’t see any telco boxes or signs of a human presence. Why do the speeds get faster the farther I go? Why did my phone connect to some random network when I specifically told it not to do that? It would be even weirder if it’s WPA3 protected or something because I obviously don’t have the password for the cave Wi-Fi

  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    When you come face to face with an armed guard and the large steel door of the bunker that he’s protecting, just let him know it was the Wi-Fi leading you there.

    That’s why everybody shows up.

  • TheUnamusedFox@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    6 months ago

    This guy here https://lemmy.world/comment/8658597 made a little SCP entry for the cave, and I just had to see what chatgpt could do. It seems good enough to share, so -

    ChatGPT

    Item #: SCP-XXXX

    Object Class: Euclid

    Special Containment Procedures: SCP-XXXX is located in [REDACTED], and is to be secured by a perimeter of no less than 5 km, with signs indicating a protected wildlife reserve to deter public entry. Foundation personnel stationed at Outpost-XXXX are to monitor the perimeter for unauthorized access and conduct regular expeditions into SCP-XXXX to study its properties and effects.

    Entrance to SCP-XXXX is restricted to Level 3 personnel and above, and requires approval from at least two (2) Level 4 researchers. Any electronic devices taken into SCP-XXXX must be approved by the research team leader and equipped with tracking and data logging functions to monitor the signal strength and any other anomalous effects experienced within the cave.

    Due to the unique properties of SCP-XXXX, a dedicated research team is tasked with developing methods to harness or replicate the signal enhancement phenomenon in a controlled environment, under Project Codename: DeepWave.

    Description: SCP-XXXX is a cave system located in [REDACTED]. Initial reports of the anomaly were made by local spelunkers who experienced unusual increases in their mobile phone signal strength, eventually reaching full signal bars at depths where no signal should logically be available.

    Exploration and testing have confirmed that the deeper one travels into SCP-XXXX, the stronger and clearer the cell signal becomes. This phenomenon appears to affect all forms of wireless communication devices. Devices within SCP-XXXX do not connect to known satellites or terrestrial cell towers; instead, they receive signals from an unknown source. Attempts to trace the signal’s origin have so far proven unsuccessful.

    Further anomalies have been observed at depths exceeding 1 km. Electronic devices begin to receive messages from unknown numbers, consisting of texts, images, and videos that appear to be from various points in the future. The content of these messages varies widely, including mundane future events, significant global incidents, and occasionally, personal messages to the device’s owner that are relevant to their future.

    Addendum XXXX-1: Discovery Log

    SCP-XXXX was discovered on [REDACTED] after local rumors reached Foundation operatives. Initial expeditions confirmed the anomalous signal strength increases and established the current containment perimeter.

    Addendum XXXX-2: Incident Report XXXX-A

    During an exploration on [REDACTED], a research team received a distress signal emanating from approximately 2 km deeper than any previous expedition had reached. The signal contained a warning of a containment breach of another SCP within the Foundation’s custody, weeks before the actual event occurred. This incident has led to a reevaluation of SCP-XXXX’s predictive capabilities and potential uses for foresight in containment protocols.

    Addendum XXXX-3: Research Note

    Ongoing investigations into SCP-XXXX’s properties suggest that the cave may be acting as a conduit for a form of quantum entanglement with particles that convey information across time. Dr. [REDACTED] proposes that the unique geological and possibly extraterrestrial materials lining the cave walls could be creating a “natural” anomalous field, enhancing signal strength and enabling time-displaced communications. Further research is required to understand the potential implications and applications of this discovery fully

  • Glowstick@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    Seriously though, if you’re lost in a cave you should probably stop walking any further. Just sit down and wait for rescue. And if you have any signal obviously call for help

    EDIT

    Here’s what chat gpt says:

    If you find yourself lost in a cave, here are some steps to follow:

    1. Don’t panic. Stay calm to think clearly¹.
    2. Use any available light sources like a mobile phone or watch¹.
    3. Protect your electronics by keeping them dry, such as in a ziplock bag¹.
    4. Follow the airflow. Airflow can indicate an exit¹.
    5. Look for cave clues. Caves may offer signs that can guide you¹.
    6. Stay warm. Wear layers and keep dry to avoid hypothermia¹.
    7. Mark your path. Use rocks or other markers to indicate the direction you’ve come from¹.
    8. Stay together if you’re in a group. There’s safety in numbers¹.
    9. Avoid wandering randomly. Stick to known paths or follow the cave wall⁵.
    10. Shout for help periodically if you think others might be nearby⁶.

    Always let someone know your plans before exploring a cave and bring the proper equipment. If you’re prepared and stay calm, your chances of finding your way out safely are much higher¹.

    Source: Conversation with Bing, 3/21/2024 (1) How to Survive in a Cave: 8 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow. https://www.wikihow.com/Survive-in-a-Cave. (2) undefined. https://cavinglife.com/what-to-do-if-you-get-stuck-in-the-cave-8-steps-to-follow/. (3) undefined. https://startcaving.com/caving-guides/escape. (4) . https://bing.com/search?q=what+to+do+if+lost+in+a+cave. (5) How To Survive If You’re Trapped In A Cave - Survivopedia. https://www.survivopedia.com/how-to-survive-if-youre-trapped-in-a-cave/. (6) How Do You Survive Getting Lost in a Cave? | MapQuest Travel. https://www.mapquest.com/travel/survival/wilderness/survive-lost-in-cave.htm.

    • LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      The first one I worked at has VOIP phones on the trails in case of emergencies, and you can easily hop on it during a tour. If you’ve ever been in the southeast US you’ve probably seen signs advertising the waterfall cave.

      … A waterfall that’s pumped, mind.