• HowMany@lemmy.ml
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    Yay China. Say… isn’t this the same country that turns out 68% of the world’s air pollution?

    What have they done about that?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      They’ve done a lot about that, like becoming the global leader in pretty much every renewable sector as well as nuclear. Also, worth mentioning that smooth brained liberals have all their stuff produced in China. It’s absolute idiocy to bleat about pollution without considering where consumption is happening. Per capita energy usage in China is far lower than in the west.

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        “It’s not our fault, we just produce cheap goods, the pollution is the fault of the people buying the goods”

        If your products are cheap because you’re polluting, you are the problem. If you weren’t polluting, your products wouldn’t be as cheap. If your products weren’t as cheap, they wouldn’t be competitive on the capitalist market. If they weren’t competitive, they wouldn’t be bought.

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            I’m sorry that you expect each unknowing consumer to have the intellectual capacity to understand the geopolitical consequences of each product they by based on the environmental damage and human rights violations during its production.

            It’s almost like you’re the fool for expecting such a flawed system to work. Saying, “well, you paid me to do it!” does not absolve you of guilt.

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              That’s a nice straw man there buddy. I never said anything of the sort. It’s the capitalist system in the west that’s responsible for creating western lifestyle and the consumption that goes along with it. Nowhere did I say that I expected this system to work either. Keep trying there.

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      Yes. And the same country that produces all the shit we order from them. So is it their pollution or ours?

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      In 2021, China, the United States, the EU27, India, Russia and Japan remained the world’s largest CO2 emitters. Together they account for 49.2% of global population, 62.4% of global Gross Domestic Product, 66.4% of global fossil fuel consumption and 67.8% of global fossil CO2 emissions.

      Unless China annexed the US, the EU, India, Russia, and Japan and I just haven’t gotten the memo yet…

      Source

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      Isn’t this the same country that also produces per capita 1/4th the pollution of USA, and the single country that manufactures almost all of the world’s goods, effectively bringing total world’s pollution to way less than if many countries were manufacturing?