I currently live in California, but it’s literally impossible to afford to buy a house.
Where are some good places to move to? I was thinking about Washington State, but I’m not sure I could handle the snow.
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Just live where other people don’t want to live. Living in desirable places drives the prices up.
Find a purple voting district, move there and vote blue - the republicans need more social services to use regularly while they complain about people expecting “handouts”
People in Washington strongly dislike Californians
We actually bitch about everyone, just not to their face.
I’ve seen bumper stickers that literally say California go home when I visit Port Angeles
I don’t know, Seattle and Tacoma will openly bitch about each other to their faces.
Haha, oh well. I’m staying anyway, to admire your beautiful scenery, pay people properly for good work and to enjoy a good coffee occasionally.
A lot of people are staying anyway hence the housing market lol
Yeah it’s kinda bad. I’m saving up for a year or two to add to the down payment, the mortgage rates kinda suck.
Regarding that last sentence, teenage me would just gawk at the rEsPoNsIbLe adult I’ve become 😂
“No snow” and “Affordable housing” are going to be a tricky combo.
Western Washington doesnt tend to get much snow, but it does happen, and housing is averaging around 600k for a 2bd/2ba even out in more suburban areas, so not exactly affordable.
Im also assuming your looking for West coast vibes given the Cali to Washington idea. New Mexico/Arizona/Nevada might match what youre looking for.
Where I live it’s lot of snow and also unaffordable housing.
Tennessee still has some affordable housing in rural areas. Very little snow as well.
Are you prepared for no-flouride water, septic tanks, an awful education system, a sub-tropic climate that seems to get less “sub” every year, more types of pollen than you’ve ever dreamed of, more guns than people, and rampant meth/opioid abuse?
Don’t forget the discrimination and frequent unreported assaults on queer folks and people of color!
Tennessee: The volunteer (to give up any reasonable expectation at a decent quality of life) state!
Or consider Rural PA, all the same problems, but with the climate of early 2000s Tennessee!
Western Washington doesn’t get a lot of snow unless you’re in the mountains.
A friend of mine just moved to California. San Diego. Couldn’t afford a house so he bought a boat and he now lives on the boat. He said the boat is much better than any house. It’s much larger than any house he could maybe afford there and if he doesn’t like San Diego, he could just float away to somewhere else.
Dock slip fees gonna get ya
Just anchor off shore and row in like a pirate. Good exercise too.
This honestly sounds really appealing
How does electricity and sewage work for this? Does their slip have hookups?
I think New Mexico is where it’s at for low/no snow and affordable housing. Not coastal vibes at all, but neither is it anywhere close to Texas feeling. They just kind of have their own thing. Almost anywhere on the I-25 between Albuquerque and Las Cruces might suit your desire.
What’s your issue with snow?
I’ve never lived in it, so I wouldn’t want to be a menace on the icy roads
I have lived in a snow area for decades after moving from California.
Nobody knows how to drive in the snow here. They forget every year, so you will fit right in. Get a car with AWD, leave room to stop, accelerate slowly, no throttle when sliding to regain traction(don’t put your foot to the floor), and keep your tires where others have driven. Snow tires are amazing, but not necessary and are a hassle. Keep a small snow shovel in the trunk and non-folding traction mats if you can. You should also keep a charged jumper pack in your car because the cold don’t give a shit about you needing to start your car.
Get a car with AWD
Be prepared to pay 4x as much when you need a replacement tire (you have to replace all 4)
I’ve never heard of replacing 1 tire. it’s usually in pairs. never been told to replace all 4 with my awd either.
Icy roads are generally ok if you have a front or 4 wheel drive and you know they’re icy so are on high alert and ready to deal with other motorists doing reckless shit which is 99% of the issues you’ll face (like driving their rear wheel drive car round a corner up a hill, then spinning out as they accelerated too hard and ending up sliding back down the road towards you, which happened to me but as I was driving reasonably I just pulled over to the side)
What you’ve gotta watch out for is wet leaves though… Sounds innocent enough but in the wrong conditions they’re as slippy as if not more than ice and because usually they’re fine your brain just dismisses them until the day you slide/spin on them
Can’t be any worse than most of the people who have lived in it their whole lives.
Seriously, I’d take someone new to driving in snowy/icy conditions over someone who has a bunch of misplaced confidence in their driving skills because they’ve “been driving in worse than this for decades!” in a heartbeat.
The newbie is much more likely to actually adapt to the conditions and drive more cautiously.
Don’t worry, loads of people that live in a snowy climate also are a menace on the road.
I’ve lived in Washington State (western) for 4 years total and have seen exactly 10 days of snow the entire time I’ve been here. Houses are still 3-400k. I want to move either closer to SeaTac or down to Vancouver because I bought a house in an area with a lot of flags on trucks if you catch my drift. We have more cloudy days than anything. We get lots of rain but it’s mostly just clouds and drizzles.
That’s my ideal weather. But, yeah, I need to be near a metro area to be happy
I’d personally recommend Vancouver then. Lived there in an apartment for a year and it was a nice mix of urban, suburban and rural. Basically drive 15 minutes in any direction and you’re in a new biome. Personally looking to move back there once I get a new job and sell the house.
I’ve just assumed I’d be priced out of, well anything, there. But I’ve certainly considered it. Haven’t been there in quite a long time though. I should visit there again
Auchtermuchty is quite nice still
City Nerd has a few great videos on affordable places to live that have urban amenities, for example: https://youtu.be/1qzePci2N6E?si=dWq43GmzH5ObF1q8
I’m told Seattle isn’t bad. And you’re close to Vancouver.
What’s in Vancouver? Genuine question, I moved away from the Vancouver area last year and don’t miss anything.
When it comes to Canada I only ever see the really popular artists perform in Vancouver or Toronto.
But I assumed one of the biggest Canadian cities would always have something going on, also driving distance away from the Shambhala Music Festival.
It’s an 8 hour drive to get to Shambhala from Vancouver…
So many comments suggesting American cities… I would rather suggest humbling yourself to the point where you can beg for EU citizenship. There’s no point in the US anymore.
Do you know how hard it is to actually get citizenship outside of usa? If you don’t work in a field that a country wants the website essentially says lol no (Ireland/Canada). They’d also quarantine the shit out of pets and traumatizing fluffy isn’t really top of the list.
LMAO
But look a little closer: OP hasn’t mentioned outside of Usa. He hasn’t even mentioned that he’s inside. That means, it is much better for the world and for him if he stays there.
I got German citizenship. Took starting over and doing a degree in the country for it to be possible. I also brought fluffy and we did a rabies antibody test and some other things so they didn’t need quarantine.
Edit: This is why I said you need to humble yourself. Maybe that was a poor choice of wording, but the US is a sinking ship and I’d sell all my belongings again if things start looking that dire here too.
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Yes, sadly you seem right.
Living in Canada I can assure you they let in hundreds of thousands of uneducated low wage workers each year. You just have to live in Africa first.
Same in America, but they come in through mexico.
Snow? Realllllyyyy depends on where in the state
Western Washington gets almost none, and you’ve got the whole I5 corridor to move to. Vancouver is the biggest city with the most affordable housing ratio. Not that it’s an oddly deep red district which is counter intuitive considering its size and proximity to Portland.
Bellingham up near the border is next in line, but it’s smaller and further from city activities.
Tacoma and Olympia are both cities that Seattleites are starting to move to despite the commute due to more affordable housing.
Then there’s Everett, the home of Boeing and about 25 miles north of Seattle. Cheaper than Seattle and has reasonable access to Seattle or to head north to the border. Still expect to pay 600k plus for a house though.
Lastly there’s everything between. It’s all small towns, rural areas, trees, and hills. The spot about smack dab between Tacoma and Portland gets more snow than most of the west side of the state, so maybe not for you. But the rest is good. And these places will all be cheap as hell to buy in. You just won’t have city amenities.
