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minus-squareNoIWontPickAName@kbin.earthlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·8 months agoThat might work if it weren’t for the fact that Biden bypassed congress twice to sell Israel weapons. Until he completely stops sending them weapons and vetoing UN resolutions then he is just as guilty as the people dropping the bombs
minus-squarelutillian@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up0·edit-28 months agoBiden is legally obligated by treaty to provide Israel with arms. Not doing so would give those maniacs in the house actual reason to impeach
minus-squareNoIWontPickAName@kbin.earthlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·8 months agoCan you show me the treaty and what it specifies?
minus-squarelutillian@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up0·8 months agoIt’s the NATO agreement. https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/stock_publications/20120822_nato_treaty_en_light_2009.pdf Article 5 is the one that got invoked by the Hamas attack
minus-squareNoIWontPickAName@kbin.earthlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·8 months agoIsrael is not a member of nato, and article 5 only applies in Europe and North America. You might want to reread that
minus-squarelutillian@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up0·edit-28 months agoAh you are correct. They are a non-nato ally as they are out of geographical scope. https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-israel/#:~:text=Israel has been designated as,relationship with the United States. This world be applicable though.
minus-squareNoIWontPickAName@kbin.earthlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·8 months agoFrom what I can tell, that just makes it easier to sell them weapons, not necessary. Feel free to correct me though
minus-squarelutillian@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up0·8 months agoThat’s only a subsection of our obligations. Two paragraphs up are what I was actually talking about. We have multiple bilateral defense agreements with them which essentially boils down to an attack on me must me treated as an attack on you.
minus-squareNoIWontPickAName@kbin.earthlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·8 months agoOk. I see multiple treaties there. So as the person making the claim that we have to send them weapons, I am going to ask you to find exactly where it says we must help them. You made the claim, you should be able to post why instead of just a link to every treaty we have going right now.
That might work if it weren’t for the fact that Biden bypassed congress twice to sell Israel weapons.
Until he completely stops sending them weapons and vetoing UN resolutions then he is just as guilty as the people dropping the bombs
Biden is legally obligated by treaty to provide Israel with arms. Not doing so would give those maniacs in the house actual reason to impeach
Can you show me the treaty and what it specifies?
It’s the NATO agreement. https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/stock_publications/20120822_nato_treaty_en_light_2009.pdf
Article 5 is the one that got invoked by the Hamas attack
Israel is not a member of nato, and article 5 only applies in Europe and North America.
You might want to reread that
Ah you are correct. They are a non-nato ally as they are out of geographical scope.
https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-israel/#:~:text=Israel has been designated as,relationship with the United States.
This world be applicable though.
From what I can tell, that just makes it easier to sell them weapons, not necessary. Feel free to correct me though
That’s only a subsection of our obligations. Two paragraphs up are what I was actually talking about. We have multiple bilateral defense agreements with them which essentially boils down to an attack on me must me treated as an attack on you.
Ok. I see multiple treaties there.
So as the person making the claim that we have to send them weapons, I am going to ask you to find exactly where it says we must help them.
You made the claim, you should be able to post why instead of just a link to every treaty we have going right now.