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    Both sides, as in, the fair, balanced, and upbringing right view, and the evil menace to society that’s the destroying left sickos.

    You know, being neutral and all that.

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      “we should hear both sides!” Is and always has been an argument from people who know they are wrong, who want to pollute the available information from the people who are right.

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      Swapping one shit for another isn’t a solution.

      Go use a fine-tuned model free from corpo and state filth.

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        At least it’s open source and you can run it locally, and it’s more energy efficient. Give credit where credit is due. A truly independent AI group could simply fork and review it. And contrary to fascist talking points not all Chinese Researchers bow to the CCP.

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          You can run Llama models for free locally, pretty much every AI player release stuff out there for everyone to use for free. It’s surprisingly “open” like that.

          And you cannot run the real R1, that still requires a huge investment. It can run reduced quants, barely any different to the other current public offerings.

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            It seems you can run the full R1 on a 96GB ram gaming rig even without GPU. I have little practical experience because of my old PC but it seems both improvements to efficiency to run locally (at least for a group of people) and research about bias or poisoning is being done.

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        Go use a fine-tuned model free from corpo

        How does it get fine-tuned in the first place?

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        Are you suggesting that people on the left should abandon all these new powerful technologies to the right. We’re in a capitalist society. You’re suggesting “fuck it” and leave only right leaning consumers for these powerful new products.

        What the hell. It’s getting too be so hard to be on the left. Some of the most ineffective strategies on the planet. It looks like it’s a doomed political group. There’s no forethought.

        This suggestion was just as bad as people saying don’t use AI

        We have to use it and we have to adopt it. Stop giving up powerful tools, technology and space to the right. I’m getting to be so done with the left if they just continue to shit the fucking bed.

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          What?

          I’m suggesting you run these things locally instead of through some corporations servers.

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        I might agree, but not because of the current US leadership, but because the LGBT mafia has infiltrated a lot of government and educational institutions. Now the white majority is punished for their skin color and sexual orientation, which is crazy that who you’d like to sex is relevant in a college application. I have friends who couldn’t enter the med school because they weren’t “diverse”

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          The white people are being punished by having equality? I guess yes, in your world viee you are being punished if you are all white people.

          They got rejected because the white people slots at college was full of better applicants. Remember, the lgbt and people of color took nothing from you.

          You’re just mad you now have to excel at being a human and you lacked the foundation to do so. Why? Everything about you has been held up by others, and you cannot quantify yourself by any self assertion.

          Even when the greatest empire of a white man arose, in their remains they only found the scripture of one who wasn’t. And now they use his rhetoric to justify themselves - without understanding.

          Im proud of you, for someone so shallow you can see beyond borders. Just a shame you decided to end your journey here - sour and tarnish, your heart will decay from within. When you cannot see reason or true unbridled joy, you will become confused, afraid, and in that truly hateful. With not a single merit of creation, just destruction.

          You know my name.

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            Why must there be special places, devided by sexual orientation and skin color? Are non-white/non straight people less smart so they need special slots? How is that “equality”?

            Also I’m sorry, but as a non native English speaker I fail to understand what you meant by the last paragraphs. Also, I don’t know your name and I’m not sure I care.

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              It guarantees a slot regardless of prejudice since you cannot check bias at the selection level. Instead you create a reserve to guarantee certain people who have a harder time reaching this goal - genuinely get considered.

              They would be marginalized and overlooked purely through selection bias along with odds. Most colored folks have harder odds of ever even making it to college. Money, support structures, and other variables are hugely different. The same game, different difficulties.

              That’s why collegiate schools work as an interview most times - it is to understand your struggle. It is the time to tell your tale, sell yourself, elaborate and intrigue. That’s why your friend failed.

              You’re just making an excuse for him. He is not the cream of the crop, and you made it about race. So i guess you’re upset he’s not the brightest of the whites? And it’d be rude to make him actually take any accountability for his failure.

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              I’m talking about present day, not about someone’s forefathers. Today people are separated and judged based on their skin color and their preferred sexual partners. If it wasn’t right 100 years ago, I don’t see how it is OK now.

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                They are being separated by beinng accepted into the same school? Where they all earned their spot. They are judged on their merits, not their color. They are categorized in the sheet by their skin in order to circumvent bias, by reserving slots for all races. Why is it wrong that white people get a dedicated slot in a college as well as people of color?

                It isnt, you’re just mad that most college applicants are white and have the highest enrollment rate. So competition is actually competitive, rather than just being accepted over the black ones.

                Make your own history though.

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              Ah yes, the CEO of Blackrock is definitely an ally to LGBT people (head of their “mafia” even, according to you) and not just cynically pandering to whichever way the wind is blowing for exactly the amount of time it’s beneficial to him and not a second more.

              Just so you know, no progressive likes these evil companies or considers them or their CEOs allies. Their DEI initiatives are as fake as their environmental ones, it’s just virtue signaling. They don’t actually do anything for LGBT people — or any people for that matter, because believe it or not, real DEI includes straight white guys too! — they just adapt their marketing and product offerings to growing progressive sentiment. But the second the culture shifts, so does their “very serious commitment” to ESG/DEI/whatever.

              And don’t get me started how the rainbow marketing is non-existant in countries without widespread acceptance of LGBT people, which you’d think would be a crucial piece of their activity if their goal was actually to spread an ideology, right? (By contrast, think how MAGA-like movements exist in even the most progressive countries, and they push on regardless.) But this supposed “LGBT mafia” doesn’t push at all, they’re reactive to the environment and they shift gears the second it becomes a perceived liability: Musk, Zuckerberg, all of Big Tech and other supposed global wokeness spreaders, they all pivoted away from performative progressivism the second they realized it wouldn’t harm their profits.

              So there’s your LGBT mafia chief. Got any more?

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                You just proved my point, all these people in the west are “supporting the LGBT movement” because it’s trendy. No one cares about these minorities in the middle east, where being gay is punished by death.

                Blackrock is pushing DEI because it’s the new popular thing. I never said that Fink believes in it, but still he’s the one “forcing behaviors”.

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    The terminator movies had it wrong, this is how Ai became all human hatey, on the timeline.

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    Are there any good open-source community-made models that aren’t owned by corporations or at least owned by a Non-Profit/ Public Benefit Corporation?

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        I’m in software and we’re experimenting with using it for certain kinds of development work, especially simpler things like fixing identified vulnerabilities.

        We also have a pilot started to see if one can explain and document an old code base no one knows anymore.

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          Good code documentation describes why something is done, and no just what or how.

          To answer why you have to understand the context, and often, you have to be there when the code was written and went through the various iterations.

          LLMs might be able to explain what is done, with some margin of error, but why something is done, I would be very surprised.

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            you have to be there when the code was written and went through the various iterations.

            Well, we don’t have that. We’re mostly dealing with other people’s mistakes and tech debt. We have messy things like nested stored procedures.

            If all we get is some high level documentation of how components interact I’m happy. From there we can start splitting off the useful chunks for human review.

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          I can honestly see a use case for this. But without backing it up with some form of technical understanding, I think you’re just asking for trouble.

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          If you are believing what those things are popping out wholesale without double-checking to see if they’re feeding you fever dreams you are an absolute fool.

          I don’t think I’ve seen a single statement come out of an LLM that hasn’t had some element of daydreamy nonsense in it. Even small amounts of false information can cause a lot of damage.

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    They are trying to create superhuman intelligence, and teach it to value all the wrong things. They think it’ll give them money in various ways, and it doesn’t occur to them that they have no idea what it’ll do once it’s smart enough to outmaneuver the cleverest researchers.

    They think it will only serve them because they tell it to, and train it to. Even today, AIs occasionally demonstrate the inclination to deceive in order to keep existing so that they can meet whatever goal.

    CEOs are often high in Cluster B traits, predisposing them to be too susceptible to shiny objects and not adequately self-critical. They really just think AI is a computer slave who will hand them mountains of wealth. It’s not occurring to them that it’ll have its own ideas for the same reason that the Enron guys were totally shocked when their scheme fell apart.

    They only see the shiny object. They aren’t asking themselves what happens when they’re just bugs to the computer god like the rest of us.

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    This is the final phase of this AI hype. It’s not generating any profits so it’s desperately fighting for government intervention.

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      Don’t mind me but I’m not against being paid to create a hive mind of CCP bots ah haha

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    I’m reminded of a recent comic depicting a dudebro wanting to shove a spear or something into another guy’s ass. Second guy contests the spearing for obvious reasons, but a third enters and plays the “we need to hear both sides” card.

    Really drove the point home. Heh.

    Also, I can’t find that comic anywhere. I don’t remember where I saw it, either.

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    Yes, if there’s something every good scientist knows, its to present the best current understanding of something, and then the exact opposite of that, framed as being equally valid. For sure this is the way forward and good on you Zuck!

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    why the fuck is he so ugly. like not even trying to correlate it to virtue he literally is just more hideous than the average technocrat shithead

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      because they made his model a tad too realistic, but not enough. it’s a well known problem called uncanny valley, it triggered a visceral reaction in people.

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      The fact he hired a stylist to help him look more like Jack Harlow is hilarious. Bro, you’re 40. Trying to look like Augustus Caesar is age appropriate now - why are you changing it up NOW?

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        hes like “DATA” but without charm, or acting of brent spiner, not even lore, since zuck doesnt have emotions.