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It puts a lot of features at the fingertips of the faithful, including the ability to filter whole neighborhoods by religion, ethnicity, “Hispanic country of origin,” “assimilation,” and whether there are children living in the household.
Its core function is to produce neighborhood maps and detailed tables of data about people from non-Anglo-European backgrounds, drawn from commercial sources typically used by marketing and data-harvesting firms.
training videos produced by users show the extent to which evangelical groups are using sophisticated ways to target non-Christian communities, with questionable safeguards around security and privacy.
In one instance, he points to the sharable note-taking function and suggests leaving information for each household, such as “Daughter left for college” and “Mother is in the hospital.”
increasingly popular among Christian supremacist groups, prayerwalking calls on believers to wage “violent prayer” (persistently and aggressively channeling emotions of hatred and anger against Satan), engage in “spiritual mapping” (identifying areas where evil is at work, such as the darkness ruling over an abortion clinic, or the “spirit of greed” ruling over Las Vegas), and conduct prayerwalking (roaming the streets in groups, “praying on-site with insight”).
newly arrived refugees might well find a knock on the door from strangers with knowledge of their personal circumstances distressing—and that’s before these surprise visitors even begin to attempt to convert them.
placing people of different ethnic and religious backgrounds on easy-to-access databases is a dangerous road to go down
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That’s a lovely idea! /S
Never seems like a good thing when a religious group starts counting
Funny you should mention that.
In the mythology of the bible, 2 Samuel 24 talks about how King David took a census of Israel, and it pissed god off so much that he killed 70,000 completely uninvolved Israelis over it, and would have killed more but he stopped when he got to Jerusalem.
And these modern day chuckleheads are doing it on purpose, lol. If only they believed a fraction of their own holy book, I would have the best time gladly explaining to them via scholarly biblical exegesis how and why they’re gonna DIE a nasty death if they do this.
If only. -sigh-
That’s such a weird passage. I can’t be understanding this correctly. God tells David to count the people. David sends his generals to count the people. They report the count back to David, who apologizes and says he sinned for doing what God told him to do? IDGI
Yeah. In a nutshell. The number of commentaries, old and new, formal and informal, asking the exact same questions from every possible angle, are countless. And every single one of them is pointed at trying to make it make some kind of sense, lol.
Turns out there’s a lot of historical context. Also, whether it was God or Satan who influenced David is somewhat ambiguous thanks to quirks in translation.
Thanks!
Very much creepy and very much on brand with evangelical Achilles who prey on the less fortunate.
Still, I suppose it will give me more of an opportunity to tell them to kindly fuck the hell off my property when they ask for the ‘nice Asian family that lives here’ when my very Italian wife answers the door as they stand there looking very confused.
That may work at first but if the religio-fascists take over the government, they won’t be asking anymore.
More like “Bless some homes, over others”
I had such an apologetic coming up to me. When i told them my name was “‘Julia’); DROP TABLE neighborhoods;” they were immediately irate!
Aw, little Julie tables! I wondered how you turned out after your sister left town. How’s the transition coming?
It’s fine. Transitioning to Couchbase was fine. Was a bit weird getting used to NoSQL… Oh you mean my hormone therapy!
And how is… Mr? Neighborhoods?
Of course it’s some shit-stain in Florida doing this.
Just Google map search Mapping Center for Evangelism and his home address pops up.
Doesn’t Florida let you shoot anyone on your property for any reason?
Do you want to weaponize the autistism against you? Cause this is how you weaponize autism against you.
Ask Shia Lebouff how well that goes.
The fact white supremacists hijacked the Christian religion and is using it to effectively push their ideology is telling. I remember when they tried to take over punk music and were quickly told “ Nazi Punks Fuck Off”. Turns out punks have better morals than Christians. Hilarious.
Punks have outstanding morals.
“Hijacked” implies they weren’t a welcomed part of it from the beginning.
Yes they’ve always been racist, But this time it’s much different. Nazis and white Supremacists have blended in with them. I believe this a very important nuanced distinction.
No doubt, yet I feel the movement (to expand) has been organized and pushed by white supremacists and not Christians.
Turns out punks have better morals than Christians.
I don’t think that any reasoning person thought otherwise.
Were you around for the satanic panic bullshit in the 70s or 80s? They painted punks (which were lumped in with metalheads and anyone who didn’t dress like yuppies) as dangerous degenerates back then.
Worked as a nice filter to gain more independent thinkers into those genres though I guess, so it worked out in the end.
I wasn’t around personally but I’m familiar with the story.
My point is really that any reasoning person sees that the punk mindset is generally pretty morally sound.
I don’t think the parents, preachers and politicians involved in the satanic panic were super logical people tbh.
I’ve never been one to want to own guns but this is the first time I feel like I really need to become armed.
All I can say is that it is better to have and not need than to need and not have. As a liberal, I am armed and I advocate for every liberal to arm themselves. America is headed to a dark place.
I sincerely hope that when they come to my door again, I am in the middle of carving up a side of beef, again. Last time some Mormons knocked on my door, I opened the door, and what they saw was a 6’3" blonde Viking with no shirt, a bloody carving knife, and wiping blood off my hands. When I saw who it was I yelled over my shoulder, (to an almost empty apartment,) “Hey guys, you can let the goat go! I just found us a couple of virgins!”
They retreated rather quickly.
I love this comment lol
Even if it didn’t, what’s the point in spoiling the fun fantasy that it did? I choose to think of it happening fondly.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !thathappened@lemmy.world
Mormons have been doing this for a while, but not quite at the creepy level as this.
Wow, the Christian app that lets you sort people by religion ALSO lets you sort them by race and ethnicity?
I am shocked. SHOCKED!
Well, not that shocked.
Well, looks like I’ll have to start answering the door in my underwear again
Or, you forget the underwear, and they’ll wish they forgot to knock on your door!
If you tell someone that they are trespassing and to leave and not come back. Can you make a citizens arrest if they return?
IANAL, but I don’t believe so. Most/all states have laws that allow people to access your property to come to your front door/porch, I forget the exact name, unless your property is fenced with clearly visible “private property/no trespassing” type signs.
However, once you’ve asked them to leave, they have to leave or they can be arrested/escorted away for trespassing should they refuse to and police become involved. In your example, if they were to come back after being asked to leave, I believe yes, but you couldn’t arrest them, the police would have to.
In that last case, where you have asked them to leave and not come back… but they do. There is a thing called a citizen’s arrest. Allowing nonpolice to make an arrest and detain a person. But what the law says and what you can do is often not the same. I just imagined haveing your doorbell record you saying to never come back, then slapping handcuffs on them if they do. Kinda sounds like fun.
Could be, but personally, I wouldn’t recommend it. While there are citizen’s arrest laws and I’m sure they’ve been used, I can’t think of any examples off the top of my head, and it appears each state has different standards that need to be met to constitute a “citizen’s arrest,” with some states not allowing/defining it.
Personally, my concern with attempting a citizen’s arrest would be doing so without meeting my state’s/country’s standard to do so. My state’s statute explicitly states it is a crime to illegally restrain someone against their will, and even states that doing so is skirting the line of kidnapping.
Having a kidnapping charge thrown at me doesn’t seem worth it for a jackass who doesn’t want to leave my property but isn’t doing anything else (like attempting to harm me or damage my property). I’d play it safe and just let the police handle it, their qualified immunity will let them do whatever they want and face no consequences anyway.
But again, IANAL, and YMMV, so do with all this as you will.
Yeah, wouldn’t be me. I have kids and no time for the disuption. I also don’t live in an area where I would have to worry about such things. But I would love to see someone who does test it. Might put a damper on these people.
prayerwalking calls on believers to wage “violent prayer” (persistently and aggressively channeling emotions of hatred and anger against Satan)
In other words first they will use words then move on to more “persuasive” methods when that doesn’t work.
Okay, so this app is super messed up, but this take on prayerwalking is the equivalent to satanic panic for D&D.
Prayerwalking is just what the portmanteau describes. Sometimes it contains an evangelistic bent of looking for specific people to pray with or whatever, but mostly it’s just people out praying for people and places.
“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. … But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.” Matthew 6:5-6
I don’t disagree with the sentiment, though the historical context makes the statement very different. The point wasn’t that you can only pray in private. The point was you can’t use apparent piety to increase your social collateral.
Doubtless, some of these people are only out there for exactly that reason. Others because they genuinely care and are deeply misguided in how best to demonstrate that concern.
They won’t accept historical context for anything they believe in. Why should this be any different?
ok but accosting strangers with your religion, and using an app to target them, does seem a bit beyond the pale.
Completely agree. I genuinely believe everyone should be allowed to believe and behave how they want, free from coercion, so long as they aren’t inhibiting anyone else’s ability to believe or behave as they please.
I think there’s plenty to criticize here without resorting to the same outlandish polemics they employ.
