• Nangijala@feddit.dk
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    3 months ago

    I get that the term came from America but it has been used on the internet by all of us. It was taken by the far right in America to use it in a negative political context for sure, but that doesn’t mean that everybody else in the rest of the world live in the US bubble. To me, woke is forced diversity usually done by big corporations who try to be hip with the kids and either failing to understand what they are doing or deliberately using diversity as a shield against criticism of their shitty product. That is all woke is to me. It has been happening in American media and it has happened in media closer to home as well as it has happened in internet culture which belongs to all of us.

    I can’t help that american society is so polarized that you can’t even use words to describe anything anymore without being labeled by reactionary Americans online.

    But if it makes you feel any better, I can switch to differentiate between forced diversity and regular diversity even though I have also been yelled at for that in the past. I am just commenting on what I’m seeing happening in media and in politics. I can’t control or help what some people decide to interpret my intentions as.

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      I can’t help that american society is so polarized that you can’t even use words to describe anything anymore without being labeled by reactionary Americans online.

      It’s kind of the nature of the world but at the same time there’s not really a limitation on making up new combinations of words to get your point across. Is it really so terrible to abandon one and just pick something different that better gets your intent across? It’s really a pretty small pool of words that hold that level of euphemistic intent.

      A lot of really evil stuff exists by being packaged in a less publicly identifiable euphemism. If I were to call myself by a username like “Blueeyes88” because I have blue eyes and really like the Phillidelphia Flyers’ Eric Lindros… there’s gunna be some conclusions drawn about my character because that’s how NeoNazis signal other Nazis that they are Nazis. When you adopted “Woke” as an American import word this process of euphemism was already in motion. The spaces you picked that word up from sold it to you as an early buy in to a radicalization pipeline. You didn’t get those loan words from a morally neutral place and it’s coming due that everyone start realizing just how poisonous that marketing campaign was.

      It’s not really a matter of what makes others personally comfortable. It’s a matter of how accurately you would like to have your intentions perceived. It doesn’t bother me personally since people who use that language are ones whom I am used to sorting in the “radicalized asshole” category. I just happened to see you fighting people who were in the process of actively making this space less comfortable for you and noticed something off.

      This space has a lot of North Americans in it and a large number of targets of those movements and we are collectively going through quite right now. If you are an American fascist then us making this space uncomfortable for you is a prerogative because there’s a well established playbook of what happens when you let right wingers acidify online spaces. If you quack people are gunna assume you are a duck so if you don’t want to spend half your time explaining you are not a duck- don’t quack.

      Quack if you want to by all means just don’t be upset when the hunting rifles come out.

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        You sound very ideologically brainwashed, my dude. Maybe someday you will realize that there is in fact a living breathing world outside of America that doesn’t live by or within the American context. We exist too. That doesn’t make us fascists, but if that is what you need to tell yourself to keep your weird little world view, then fine by me. Bizarre behavior.

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          Says the guy who would rather pick stupid fights over syntax than change a single word and have halfway decent conversations instead.

          Pricks come in multiple nationalities.