• daikiki@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    If it weren’t for the thieving class and the people who fall for their bullshit, I’m convinced we’d be having serious discussions about what it means to live in a post-scarcity society by now.

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    6 months ago

    It’s very rational, it’s always been mocked and looked down upon to be optimistic. But through the ages it has been proven to be true that we achieve much more than we imagine.

    However the pessimism built in to most people probably helps this drive and is actually a good thing.

  • dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net
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    6 months ago

    It’s grifting, pure and simple. All those things may be possible but Sam Altman is spewing this line of bullshit to keep the venture capital flowing into his company.

    • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Exactly. As a SW engineer, I don’t know how far we are from an AGI exactly, but I am confident enough Altman and openAi have no idea where to even start.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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        6 months ago

        In Venice he never claims that he will be the one to do these things, at least in that tweet he doesn’t claim to be the one that’s going to do those things.

        I’m not sure what the line about creating new realities means. I assume he means VR and not that AI is going to give us the ability to access hyperspace or something.

      • EnderMB@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        As a software engineer that works in AI, the “breakthrough” we’ve made is in proving that LLM’s can perform well at scale, and that hallucinations aren’t as big a problem as initially thought. Most tech companies didn’t do what OpenAI did because hallucinations are brand-damaging, whereas OpenAI didn’t give a fuck. In the next few years, all existing AI systems will be through LLM’s, and probably as good at ChatGPT.

        We might make more progress now that researchers and academics see the value in LLM’s, but my weakly held opinion is that it’s mostly surrounded by hype.

        We’re nowhere near what most would call AGI, although to be blunt, I don’t think the average person on here could truly tell you what that looks like without disagreeing with AI researchers.

  • yamanii@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Abundance is already here, tons of food are destroyed and thrown out when they accidentally make too much while people are starving, there’s no money in abundance, it’s the artificial lack of supply that keeps prices high and profits soaring.

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      6 months ago

      Food isn’t the only resource in the equation. Most of the resources are limited and even diminishing.

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        6 months ago

        I agree but I think their point was more along the lines of “Even if we have complete abundance of everything (as in, the capabilities to produce anything in abundance), capitalists will continue to create artificial lack of supply to continue profiting off of the workers. For example, look at the food abundance we have”

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          6 months ago

          capitalists will continue to create artificial lack of supply

          I think it’s not that, but just:

          capitalists won’t spend their money to create logistical chains for free.

          “Collect and distribute supply” won’t do itself, someone should do that. And noone will do that for free

    • Toribor@corndog.social
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      6 months ago

      This reads like Musk promising everyone that his imaginary train will be faster and cheaper than everything else.

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    6 months ago

    Ugh. So many places in the world already have abundance that is hard to imagine; but that’s only the case because of extreme hoarding of resources and wealth.

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    6 months ago

    He’s not wrong. He’s probably not going to be the guy leading the charge on any of that but he’s not wrong.

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      6 months ago

      He’s forgetting about the part where it’ll be monetized in such a way that only the rich will benefit.

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        6 months ago

        Check again. He never said it wouldn’t!

        He’s not forgetting: that’s what he’s proposing!

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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        6 months ago

        You’re not exactly wrong but at the same time we all benefited from the invention of say electricity or computing. If they do invent fusion or something I’m sure we’ll get benefits. Maybe not free power but at the very least that allow us to buy it.

        With access to that much power we could desalinate seawater on an industrial scale or power some of the carbon capture technologies. It will make things better.

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      6 months ago

      We can already create enough abondance that no human starves, sleep outside or can’t affotd medical treatment. Still look at the world.

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            6 months ago

            I don’t think so.

            What, it seems stupid to you that monopolies created used copyright and patent laws designed to benefit domestic companies I call mercantilism? Bailing out companies “too big to fail” is regulation too. Health in USA is so expensive because it’s regulated to work this way.

            There are plenty of regulations, just not those you’d want, too bad.

  • dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza
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    6 months ago

    It’s just bait for investors. This is the kind of crap that gets people with money and zero understanding of computers to buy stocks.