Edit: The admins have told me if I don’t say this was an accident then they will remove the post.
It’s is verifiably an accident. It is also extremely convenient for the people she threatened.
Edit: The admins have told me if I don’t say this was an accident then they will remove the post.
It’s is verifiably an accident. It is also extremely convenient for the people she threatened.
People were making this claim back when the news first broke and since then the top search result including her name is “Jessica Aber cause of death”. The cause is officially Epileptic Seizure, and her family has chimed in to say:
So while it is possible that she was somehow drugged with some rare exotic neurotoxin that isn’t tested for, or she drank some suspicious glowing tea many years ago, it’s very very unlikely.
while i also believe this is nothing more than a coincidence,
i have to admit that, if she were truly deleted, her family would be instructed to repeat a favorable version of events.
Yes. The Russians killed her and had a sit down with her family where they told them to stick with the narrative of her dying by natural causes or else the Russians would be very, very mad and the family agreed to go along with it. And this all happened on American soil. That’s the most likely explanation for sure.
(/s because some of y’all… Just /s, OK?)
Lmao “instructed” bro this ain’t North Korea.
SUDEP (sudden unexpected death in epilepsy) is quite rare, so this explanation of “natural causes” makes the situation a lot more suspicious.
SUDEP is rare, but that’s only because other people tend to be around during seizures. She was alone all night, and epileptics are also more likely to seize in their sleep; Something like 75% of all seizures start while the person is asleep.
I agree that making it look natural is much easier when the person is epileptic; The list of medications that interact with (or directly counteract) epilepsy meds is a mile long. However, that doesn’t mean we should immediately default to “it was a hit that used one of those drugs.”
Dying from epilepsy is only rare in circumstance that a person isn’t close by. Chances of Dying from epilepsy is quite scarey in that there is a possibility on every single epileptic seizure that a person could die.
People with epilepsy have a chance of dying if they are awake and no one is around fast enough to do anything.
Almost lost a neighbour this way.
if they are asleep there is less a chance someone might come by. Because everyone else is asleep and unless someone is in bed with you they wouldn’t know to wake up and do something to help.
97% of seizures spontaneously stop in less than 5minutes. People on medication ( that they actually take), seizures tend to be shorter and in the setting of partial onset epilepsy (which is usually the case in adults) they are also more focal or shorter at breakthrough. So yeah, technically any seizure can kill you, but in reality they very rarely do. Also, the family of this person was comfortable having her alone in her home suggesting this hasn’t been a regular occurrence etc.
Of course, this doesn’t mean anything but again, it is unusual.
Does that mean that 3% of seizures require intervention?
I would imagine the probabilities aren’t independent, but if they were, the probability of someone staying in the 97% for 10 seizures in a row is 73.7%. 20 seizures in a row drops the probability to 54%. Under that math, even if the probability of something going wrong is low in any given seizure, someone who has many seizures in a lifetime will likely experience something serious at some point.
It means maybe take off the tinfoil hat for a bit.
Yeah, just because something is unusual, it doesn’t mean that another unusual explanation is automatically true.
She suffered epilepsy for years leading up to her death in her sleep. SUDEP is assigned when no other cause of death is found, but in the strictest sense this was neither sudden or unexpected.
You again?:) unless she died of aspiration pneumonitis, based on the information we have, this seems to meet criteria for SUDEP where the theory is a generalized seizure hitting the brain stem leading to sudden arrhythmia and cardiac arrest or respiratory arrest. But since it is sudden, and unexpected, there are very few instances captured on EMU. Also, it doesn’t seem likely that she was suffering from intractable epilepsy, otherwise she wouldn’t have been able to fulfill her duties as a judge, it’s always possible that she just stopped taking her medications, but even in that situation SUDEP remains rare. But please, tell me more about your Google search.
What if you’re wrong?
The meds aren’t always an insurance. she could be between meds if in case she’s had recent episodes and needing to change a perscription. This has happened to multiple people i know who are dealing with seizures as their lifestyle.
I’m sure the family had gotten the autopsy to be going the length of posting it as the official cause.
Totally possible, but high risk patients’ medication switches happen in the EMU (epilepsy monitoring unit).
Again, we are missing a lot of information here.
As many as 1 in 26 americans have symptoms of Epilepsy, 3 million have been formally diagnosed with epilepsy, it does not disqualify you as a judge.
“ symptoms of epilepsy?” Epilepsy is not a symptom. Anyway, Google intractable epilepsy.
Epilepsy is not a symptom. Epilepsy has symptoms.
“of” as in belonging to or annotating to, like “William of Orange” or “Side Effects of Ritalin.”
your search engine implies “seizures” as the symptom but given the existence of provoked/symptomatic seizures, not all seizures meet criteria for epilepsy as your edit now suggests. And most epilepsies aren’t intractable. Which is the point about its impact on employment/ job duties.
My search engine…? I think theres a language barrier here. Also I think my edit predates your reply, I’ll have to check on desktop later. I usually do grammar edits while on mobile.
EDIT: Yeah my edit predates the reply by over 5 minutes.
not that I don’t believe the Russians aren’t capable of it, but my uncle died of “sudden adult death syndrome”
just one day fell down and died, no cause determined. As far as anyone can tell wasn’t even a heart attack or an aneurysm (sp?).
My ex-spouse’s step-mother died from an acute case of not being alive anymore. She was in physically good health, good heart/blood pressure, mentally sharp, was a distance swimmer, ran, smoked occasionally (like 1-2 cigarettes a day), and was in her mid-60s. She collapsed in a supermarket and was dead before any help could arrive. The autopsy couldn’t find any cause of death; no ruptured aneurysm, no stroke, no heart attack or heart issues at all, no drug interactions, nothing. She just… stopped being alive.
Shit happens sometimes, and there’s not always an obvious cause.
But that’s usually a sudden cardiac arrhythmia. again I’m just saying that citing a very rare cause of death does not eliminate suspicion of foul play from a medical perspective, it amplifies it.
If anything, being able to explain it away by saying there are other valid options like “usually cardiac arrhythmia” is only weakening your point. It does not strengthen the idea that it must be one particular thing, like SUDEP, but it sure as shit doesn’t help the idea that she was assassinated. You could even be correct but it would be purely luck if this is how the conclusion is arrived at.
Also rare is not a non-zero chance. Even the smallest percentage is made up of real people.
My only point is that a nonchalant “oh it was just seizures” statement raises a lot more questions than it eliminates. At least from an MD’s perspective.
Then your point was incredibly poorly made. The only questions I can see it raising are about what could it be besides a purposeful murder and, if we’re feeling crazy, about the intentions of the poster. Thinking that everyone who doesn’t agree with us outright is a likely government plant is stupid, though, so I hope anyone with an MD perspective wouldn’t be too hot for that idea.
I’m not interested in conspiracy theories and I’ve been ignoring these threads for that very reason, but again the “oh just seizures” take did raise my eyebrows. We don’t have enough information to make any judgment.