Edit: The admins have told me if I don’t say this was an accident then they will remove the post.

It’s is verifiably an accident. It is also extremely convenient for the people she threatened.

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    She suffered epilepsy for years leading up to her death in her sleep. SUDEP is assigned when no other cause of death is found, but in the strictest sense this was neither sudden or unexpected.

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      You again?:) unless she died of aspiration pneumonitis, based on the information we have, this seems to meet criteria for SUDEP where the theory is a generalized seizure hitting the brain stem leading to sudden arrhythmia and cardiac arrest or respiratory arrest. But since it is sudden, and unexpected, there are very few instances captured on EMU. Also, it doesn’t seem likely that she was suffering from intractable epilepsy, otherwise she wouldn’t have been able to fulfill her duties as a judge, it’s always possible that she just stopped taking her medications, but even in that situation SUDEP remains rare. But please, tell me more about your Google search.

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        As many as 1 in 26 americans have symptoms of Epilepsy, 3 million have been formally diagnosed with epilepsy, it does not disqualify you as a judge.

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            Epilepsy is not a symptom. Epilepsy has symptoms.

            “of” as in belonging to or annotating to, like “William of Orange” or “Side Effects of Ritalin.”

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              your search engine implies “seizures” as the symptom but given the existence of provoked/symptomatic seizures, not all seizures meet criteria for epilepsy as your edit now suggests. And most epilepsies aren’t intractable. Which is the point about its impact on employment/ job duties.

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                My search engine…? I think theres a language barrier here. Also I think my edit predates your reply, I’ll have to check on desktop later. I usually do grammar edits while on mobile.

                EDIT: Yeah my edit predates the reply by over 5 minutes.

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                  Yeah my edit predates the reply by over 5 minutes.

                  You’ll get the point for checking. Unfortunately this doesn’t tell us what your original post was and I surely don’t refresh continuously to see the edits when I send my responses. It’s also entirely beside the point.

                  Intractable epilepsy (as in having frequent breakthrough seizures that is failed to be controlled on at least 2 adequately chosen medications), which I’d been repeatedly pointing to, may impact someone’s ability to work as a judge and can absolutely lead to medical retirement. Also, SUDEP’s incidence is about 1 in a 1000 patient years and the most telling part that epilepsy’s still left off the causes of deaths of a third of those cases. https://www.neurology.org/doi/abs/10.1212/WNL.0000000000004094

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        What if you’re wrong?

        The meds aren’t always an insurance. she could be between meds if in case she’s had recent episodes and needing to change a perscription. This has happened to multiple people i know who are dealing with seizures as their lifestyle.

        I’m sure the family had gotten the autopsy to be going the length of posting it as the official cause.

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          Totally possible, but high risk patients’ medication switches happen in the EMU (epilepsy monitoring unit).

          Again, we are missing a lot of information here.

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      not that I don’t believe the Russians aren’t capable of it, but my uncle died of “sudden adult death syndrome”

      just one day fell down and died, no cause determined. As far as anyone can tell wasn’t even a heart attack or an aneurysm (sp?).

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        My ex-spouse’s step-mother died from an acute case of not being alive anymore. She was in physically good health, good heart/blood pressure, mentally sharp, was a distance swimmer, ran, smoked occasionally (like 1-2 cigarettes a day), and was in her mid-60s. She collapsed in a supermarket and was dead before any help could arrive. The autopsy couldn’t find any cause of death; no ruptured aneurysm, no stroke, no heart attack or heart issues at all, no drug interactions, nothing. She just… stopped being alive.

        Shit happens sometimes, and there’s not always an obvious cause.

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        But that’s usually a sudden cardiac arrhythmia. again I’m just saying that citing a very rare cause of death does not eliminate suspicion of foul play from a medical perspective, it amplifies it.

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          If anything, being able to explain it away by saying there are other valid options like “usually cardiac arrhythmia” is only weakening your point. It does not strengthen the idea that it must be one particular thing, like SUDEP, but it sure as shit doesn’t help the idea that she was assassinated. You could even be correct but it would be purely luck if this is how the conclusion is arrived at.

          Also rare is not a non-zero chance. Even the smallest percentage is made up of real people.

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            My only point is that a nonchalant “oh it was just seizures” statement raises a lot more questions than it eliminates. At least from an MD’s perspective.

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              Then your point was incredibly poorly made. The only questions I can see it raising are about what could it be besides a purposeful murder and, if we’re feeling crazy, about the intentions of the poster. Thinking that everyone who doesn’t agree with us outright is a likely government plant is stupid, though, so I hope anyone with an MD perspective wouldn’t be too hot for that idea.

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                I’m not interested in conspiracy theories and I’ve been ignoring these threads for that very reason, but again the “oh just seizures” take did raise my eyebrows. We don’t have enough information to make any judgment.