Where would you move to ride out a potential WWIII?

  • QuarterSwede@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    I’ve got a bug out zone extremely close to a bordering country that’s self sufficient. Staying put unless things get wildly out of hand. We could probably house another 2 families if needed.

  • WhatSay@slrpnk.net
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    1 month ago

    Nomadic life makes the most sense, just figure out your mode(s) of transportation.

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        1 month ago

        I was looking into boats for a moment, all the legalities were too much of a learning curve for me, but there’s a lot of water out there.

          • grue@lemmy.world
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            1 month ago

            Realistically, I want a Seawind 1160. Unfortunately, I’ve been keeping an eye on prices for used ones since before the pandemic, and they never seem to get any cheaper. 🙁

  • Marte@lemmy.eco.br
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    Everyone saying Latin America has absolutely no clue about what Latin America is, lol. The only place safe from fascism rn is either another planet or being dead.

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      1 month ago

      As a Costa Rican, I agree. Hell, we even have one of trumps deportation (concentration) camps over here

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          No. Moving elsewhere is a high emotional and financial cost that I will avoid until it is not possible to avoid anymore (also, where in the world is safe of fascism rn?)

  • Orvorn@slrpnk.net
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    1 month ago

    I’m staying right here in the imperial core where I can inflict the most damage when the time comes.

  • edel@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    If we take its actual definition; far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist, countries like Cuba for sure fits the bill. Now Cuba is authoritarian (and normal since they are in permanent and genuine threat from its neighbor) and probably that is not what is in your mind. Latin America is, as many as you pointed out, no ideal… but most countries there at least lacks of a strong government to enforce things (for better or worse) so, in a turbulent world, it is indeed a better bet. I think, for the time being, Spain has proven to be resilient to authoritarianism and even the voters of “extreme” parties are not that extreme themselves! In Latin America, Mexico is proven to have an amazing leadership (today, I consider it the best worldwide) so unlikely to change overnight. Colombia, Chile and Uruguay seems promising too.

    • Marte@lemmy.eco.br
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      See, when we analyze Latin America countries, one cannot think exclusively in terms of US or Europe political science. Our states may seem like weak forces when scrutinized from afar, however this is exactly the problem. Fascism has different ways of spreading through institutions and evangelical militias or drug cartels are literally everywhere. Sometimes, our states do not enforce fascism by law. They are weak on surface and extremely dangerous in their militias and affiliations with drug cartels. The contradiction is the rule around here. Mexico is not the heaven you make it sound. Do not trust a country’s safety based on official governments, it is a starter error when analyzing Latin America politics

      • Marte@lemmy.eco.br
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        A concerning example regarding what I’m saying is the fact that over Rio de Janeiro there are drug cartels which distribute cocaine packed in Israel’s flag. I wish I was kidding.

        Is it because they’re Jewish? They support Palestine’s genocide? No, they’re Christian Neopentecostal Evangelicals who apply their (unofficial but VERY real) rules based on the Bible and make money over cocaine cartels. Israel’s flag is a way of showing they are God’s chosen and the true governors of Rio de Janeiro.

        This is only a superficial example.

        • edel@lemmy.ml
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          1 month ago

          Thanks for the article! Yes, South America is not free from this. One thing I have learned in my life is that how similar people we are everywhere… only circumstances make us seem different. Long gone are my admiration for Scandinavians! What most South America seems however (specially if a sizeable country), is distant enough from China, US and Russia to be easily dragged along in a conflict… and also their governments are weak enough to implement a global draft for instance.

        • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee
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          1 month ago

          You cannot be a refugee there, you need a job.

          EU has 10% immigrants. China has 0,1% immigrants.

          1,3 million Syrians took refuge in the EU while barely any could go to china.

          China isn’t poor, they are unwilling.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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            Europeans have actively worked to destroy Syria and other countries along with the US, that’s why people are fleeing countries like Syria. Seems appropriate that Europe would be taking refugees from countries Europe helped destroy.

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              1 month ago

              Say something bad about china :)

              Europe lacks independence. There’s far right movements, infiltrated by foreign interest. There’s racism here.

              USA is going totalitarian.

              Now, say something bad about china :) you might get banned though by your homies

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                  1 month ago

                  I’ll do it for you.

                  China censors the shit out of their population. And if you want to be part of the 0,1% immigrants in china, you cannot afford to criticise a government of 1,4 billion people.

                  Because you are nothing compared to the government.

                  Go to china, so that I can’t read your comments anymore because of the great firewall.

  • boydster@sh.itjust.works
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    My crazy mom says she’s looking to move to Uruguay because when the nukes start falling they will most likely not have a ton of fallout to deal with.

    I’m gonna run toward the light in that kind of scenario, personally. Nature will rebuild. In a WWIII scenario, the winner is evolution. Life will, uh, find its way.

    • LEM 1689@lemmy.sdf.org
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      It’s five and I’m driving home again

      It’s hard to believe that it’s my last time

      The man on the wireless cries again

      It’s over, it’s over

      It’s late and I’m with my love alone

      We drink to forget the coming storm

      We love to the sound of our favorite song

      Over and over

      Dancing with tears in my eyes

      Weeping for the memory of a life gone by

      Dancing with tears in my eyes

      Living out a memory of a love that died

    • kibiz0r@midwest.social
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      1 month ago

      Behind the Bastards had a Christmas special non-bastard episode on the Tupamaros of Uruguay and Pepe Mujica. It does seem like they have some decent politics there.

    • brisk@aussie.zone
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      You might want to wait until after the May election to see whether Australia is immune to the rise of fascism.

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      If the Americans are dumb enough to start a war with China, the Aus vasals are the first to go.
      Better not move to a city then.

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        As an Australian, I’m often thinking about whether Russian or mandarin is the best language for me to learn. Definitely more rations for an interpreter

  • 𒉀TheGuyTM3𒉁@lemmy.ml
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    Marquesas islands. They are very large, no dangers, lot of hideouts, lot of food resources, innaccessible for wheel vehicles, almost impossible to build large bases and to urbanise (small interest for China), they are isolated from other archipelagos, and the islands have not even 10k inhabitants in total (14 islands) so no one would get interest in nuking here.

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    1 month ago

    London. Thanks to the artefacts in the British Museum, nobody will dare to throw bombs there.

  • Exactly where I am.

    I moved to a backwater town in the middle of the desert for a fucking reason, worse comes to worst and I’ve got the benefit of being able to travel in literally any direction and be on res.

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    Chatham Islands ?

    I chose Tasmania, am here now… I dont think anywhere is but i am hoping it’s lesser and i am not the literal tip of the spear.

    Albiet the poulation is older, white, conservative, religious so there is that problem.