• Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    See, this is a rebuttal. Something that lets me know you’re reading words and not just dropping the first semi-relevant article.

    Yes. I agree. The economy is worse now than it was. And I have never argued that it wasn’t. I currently believe it’s a bit of both of the above, actually. That corporations are shit and absolutely looking to extract any value they can, and that people in general rebounded a bit hard after covid lockdowns ended, but that was inevitable. I think that COVID lockdowns caused corporations to start increasing their prices, “well traffics down we have to stay afloat somehow!” Which they naturally don’t want to give up now. Combined with the rebounding I mentioned earlier where people temporarily more willing to spend, and here we are.

    Absolutely regulation needs to be put in place. My intent with the UBI line was simply, people spend money when they have money, put money into people’s hands and (with a little regulation) the economy will start moving towards good again.

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      9 months ago

      It was an extremely relevant article since my rebuttal was based on it. This makes me think you just rejected it outright because you decided it wasn’t relevant without even looking.

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        9 months ago

        Again, it’s irrelevant to MY ARGUMENT. In my first post I did not make any mention of my beliefs.

        The chain of events from my perspective is:

        OP makes an argument about how the stimuli made the economy appear, relatively, worse now than it actually is.

        You replied to an argument about the stimuli CAUSING the economy to be shit.

        I replied, clarifying OPs original stance. The only bit of my beliefs in the first reply is the last sentence, where I say OPs argument is a better case for UBI than it is for the current state of the economy.

        You reply with an article attacking OPs views.

        I reiterate my views, significantly different from OPs.

        You again attack claims that I have not made.

        My entire existence in this thing is one simply asking you to argue, WITH OP, on the words they’ve actually said. And somehow we’re here, me acting as a surrogate OP because you can’t seem to parse that I’m not the one making the claims, just interpreting them.

        Then again you are flying squid, not reading squid.

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          9 months ago

          I’m sorry, I didn’t realize I was talking to two different people. It’s sometimes hard to realize that on Lemmy.

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            9 months ago

            That’s fine. It happens. I encourage you to go back and reread the OPs post, and your reply to it. I think you’ll see why I’m so exasperated.

            You make good points, they’re valid and based in reality. I’d encourage you to try to fully understand the opponents views before attacking them, though. Thank you for showing a bit of humility.