Saw X
I’d say that’s an “everyone sucks here” type of story.
The French version of La Femme Nikita, although it’s more of a redemption arc than “villain turning out to be a good guy.” She starts out as a junkie petty crook who murders a cop in cold blood, spends most of the film assassinating people for the government, and in the end seems to have gotten her life together.
But she starts out as a very not-nice person.
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“Presentation” gives me goosebumps every time. Such a great scene
Unfortunately the sequel absolutely lacks presentation. Its like they completely forgot what made the first movie good.
There’s a sequel? 😬
Sadly yes.
Just looked it up. None of the original VA cast (all recast). 2.1 stars on IMDB. That’s the lowest I’ve ever seen.
“Presentation!” is a regular reference in our lives.
well he didn’t “tuned out to be the good guy”. He was a bad guy and later became good because of the girl.
I think the message of the film was more that he was always good (to some extent) and that his earlier actions were influenced by his upbringing (in contrast to Metro Man’s)
He simply grew up into the role of the villain. And then he played that role.
Satan of the Bible, similar character to Prometheus https://www.enotes.com/topics/paradise-lost/questions/why-satan-considered-hero-paradise-lost-419454
Proponent of knowledge and education. Isn’t big on forced worship. Doesn’t murder you for not paying enough attention. Guess it’s all just a trick to capture your eternal soul.
Jafar in Twisted. So so good.
Twisted is what made me love musicals. They’re not a big thing in my culture, our theatre is strictly non-musical, and the movie ones seemed weird to me. But after watching Twisted, they all clicked for me. Everyone should give it a watch!
The Rock, starring Sean Connery and Nicholas Cage
Interview With the Vampire … kind of … Lestat was by no means good to Louis, but their portrayals in the rest of the series was quite different … I think that Anne Rice was trying to show that neither of them should be considered reliable narrators and Louis will always try to portray his situation as awfully as possible and Lestat is a narcissist and will always try to portray himself in the best light even when acknowledging what he did incorrectly.
But, when I saw that book 2 was about Lestat, I was like … wtf … I hate this guy, why would I want a story with him as the main character and then I read them all, lol.
Gru in Despicable Me.
Zangief in Wreck-it Ralph: “You are bad guy but this does not mean you are bad guy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯”
The Quarians vs the Geth…the Quarians did the Geth dirty
Braid
still ain’t finished it after all these years 'cause of how hard some levels are (and i don’t wanna use a video every damn time)
Lex Luthor in DCU comics. I argue that the same logic laid out in Superman Red Son applies to all superman. Where he crashed on earth didn’t change his affect on mankind.
Suicide Squad (the comic) doesn’t quite fit the OP’s request but it’s so good I feel it deserves an honorable mention here.
I would say that Lex Luthor is more of a villain who sees himself as the good guy. He thinks he is humanity’s savior from what he perceives as an alien threat. Whether he is evil or not depends on the actions of Superman.
I kinda think this about the Separatists in Star Wars…Dooku aside…
I’ll never stop complaining that in the second movie Dooku tells Obi-Wan that the Separatists are the good guys and that there’s a sith influencing the Senate. Which would have been a cool reveal for the audience, that we’re rooting for the bad guys.
But then Dooku is also a sith anyway. What a wasted opportunity.
Interview With the Vampire’s Lestat was a bloodthirsty murderer. The Vampire Lestat’s Lestat was a bloodthirsty murderer … with a conscience.
In Tale of the Body Thief, he drinks orange juice and it makes him think of drinking sunshine.
I loved the Vampire Lestat.
The golden hour.
Adrian Veidt, Watchmen.
Questionable. Depending on your attitude towards the follow-up Doomsday Clock, he is really just a megalomaniac who believes he’s the good guy
Absolutely not, unless you adhere to pure utilitarianism. Veidt kills untold numbers of innocent people on a self-imposed quest to do what he believes will save humanity. He was a straight up megalomaniac and the only upside is that his murderous actions eventually lead to peace.
But he made himself feel every death, and he saved the entire world from (holds lighter under map)…
Self imposed pain do not give back nor compensate for the lifes he took.
In a sense, Bleach - twice!
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Sousuke Aizen used deplorable methods in his attempt to achieve godhood and conquer the “empty throne of god”, but was ultimately justified when the forces of Yhwach, the legitimate son of God decided to invade and lay waste to the Soul Society. Subverted yet again when it is revealed that the current “Soul King” (the lynchpin that hold reality together and the pretend-ruler of the world) is in fact an empty husk of the original God, who was assassinated by the Shinigami because they feared his powers, and Yhwach’s bloody conquest was in fact an attempt at revenge. Some of his final words before dying are “I will create a world without the fear of death”.
