I use the apps my friends use but it gets tiring to keep up with so many.

  • strahlemann@feddit.de
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    8 months ago

    chats are not e2e encrypted by default and group chats are never e2e encrypted. even whatsapp is e2ee for every chat.

    • Clot@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      And how does being e2ee by default guarantee you are secure? whatsapp doesnt even encrypt metadata.

      • strahlemann@feddit.de
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        8 months ago

        I don’t like whatsapp either but my claim still holds. e2ee by default for all chats is arguably more privacy respecting than opt-in e2ee for 1-1 chats only. and what metadata exactly does telegram encrypt but whatsapp does not?

        • Clot@lemm.ee
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          8 months ago

          e2ee by default only for your data to be used when you back it up. Atleast there have been no data breaches reported in telegram so far

          • strahlemann@feddit.de
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            8 months ago

            you can encrypt backups in whatsapp but we might agree on whatsapp and telegram being equally bad then

            no data breaches reported in telegram so far

            yes they hand it out voluntarily, search term: telegram german authorities

            • Clot@lemm.ee
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              8 months ago

              only if you are terrorist or do some CP stuff. Besides there are ton of reasons why I should use telegram. Its a lot more featureful, its easy for people to move their and its secure enough for me because I am not a terrorist and I dont sell drugs, thanks.

      • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        It’s fun watching people argue about things I don’t care about. Like, y’all haven’t already abandoned your sense of privacy to this world? Lol

          • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            It’s fun though. I’m glad they keep an eye on this stuff because I don’t and someone definitely should. But it really is just a hobby. It’s fun how serious they take it. Super serious hobby lol. Love them to death though. Greatful too!