“Israel MUST open the borders and allow the United Nations to deliver supplies in sufficient quantities.”
“The United States, which has helped fund the Israeli military for years, cannot sit back and allow hundreds of thousands of innocent children to starve to death,” Sanders (Vt.) said in a statement. “As a result of Israeli bombing and restrictions on humanitarian aid, the people of Gaza are facing an unprecedented humanitarian disaster.”
Israeli forces have killed more than 30,200 Palestinians in Gaza—most of them women and children—while wounding over 71,300 others and displacing around 90% of the besieged enclave’s 2.3 million people. Children are now starving to death, and experts say adults, especially elders and other vulnerable people, will soon follow absent urgent intervention.
Yeah they dropped something like 30,000 meals.
For more than two million.
A fucking joke. That’s more likely to start fights between hungry people than to help.
Given that Israel justifies the recent massacre in this way, this seems to be part of the plan to commit genocide, while preserving some sort of deniability.
That’s why these are air drops. Short of Hamas (ineffectively) firing rockets at US aircraft, airdrops eliminate the risk of incidents like the flour riots.
In Gaza live more than 2 million people, of which almost everyone is facing starvation right now, while having no access to clean water and the medical infrastructure is practically nonexistent. To provide everyone with the bare minimum, you’d need to drop in about 20 kg per person and day. That would be a kilo of rice/flour/potatoes, another kilo of protein and vitamin sources, 15 litres of drinking water and the rest being hygienic supplies, medical supplies, blankets, tents, clothes…
That makes up 40.000 tonnes of daily deliveries. That is equal to about 4.000 normal trucks that need to enter Gaza every single day, or about 3 trucks every single minute.
That is the scale we are talking about. If the US used all their 450 CH-47 helicopters for this mission, with each one being able to load about a 10 tonne load, they’d be flying nonstop. And there is no way to station these off of one aircraft carrier. It would be a huge logistics mission, requiring the use of a proper land supplied air field nearby. And if you think, the US has better transport options, the C-130 line can only load 6 pallets at a time, so effectively not more, while requiring even better airfields.
Sanders is absolutely right. Air-Drops are nothing but a thin veil to pretend doing something about the issue. But the only way to provide sustained relief is through an extensive ground transport mission.
If you want just a rough idea of what we are actually talking about in terms of logistics here, have a look at the Berlin airlift That was about the same number of people, although they had access to clean drinking water.
And the US is required to do all of that ourselves? This isn’t a “tax dollars” thing, it’s just that it seems a little insane to here zero criticism of countries sending in zero supplies while the US is the great Satan for bringing in what it can while negotiating to bring in more by other methods.
Yes, ground is best, but that has serious risks. Those convoys would need to be protected by soldiers. Should they be IDF? We know why that’s not a great idea. Should they be US? What happens if they clash with Hamas? Is the US going to be pulled into the conflict? It sounds like bringing is supplies by sea is coming soon, and I know it’s not soon enough.
I totally get how bad things are, and it makes me sick. However, I also know that it’s totally possible to make things worse. This still has the ability to spread outside Gaza to a regional conflict.
Just in case it needs to be said, fuck Israel and Netanyaho. Also, in any conversation, “Bernie is right” is almost being redundant as far as I’m concerned. We absolutely need to do more, but the realities of the situation have to be navigated carefully.
The US is the single strongest supporter and protector of Israel. The US is sending billions of weapons to Israel and has continued to do so. The US continues to veto resolutions against the genocide in the UN security council.
The responsibility is by no means exclusive to the US, but given the share of responsibility of the US for enabling this genocide, their share in resolving it, must be equally high. There used to be an effective means of providing aid to Gaza. The UNRWA. But the US and other Israel supporters like Germany decided to sabotage it, the day after the ICJ ruled that Gaza needs more humanitarian aid to prevent a genocide. The sabotage remains on unproven accusations of Israel against a laughably small number of UNRWA employees.
Aid convoys don’t need to be protected by soldiers, if enough aid enters Gaza. The people are not “animals” or “plundering” or “rioting” or whatever terminology is used by pro Israeli propaganda. They are starving people desperate for food. Provide enough food and there is no fighting about it.
According to UNRWA, the number of Palestinians currently in need of food assistance is more like 500k. 30k is a good start, especially when you consider that it was just the first drop. Negotiations are reportedly going well to start bringing in boats, but time will tell if Israel is as open to that as they claim.
Any boots on the ground, even those protecting aid workers, carry a risk of more incidents like the flour riots, so that’s not going to happen without operational coordination agreements. Israel would love it if there were an incident between American soldiers and Palestinians. It would be a propaganda goldmine.
All 2+ million are in need of food assistance. 550k aren’t just in need of food assistance, they’re close to famine and famine is different. That’s when you literally die from starvation and it can take weeks of food assistance to recover from famine.
Also what the fuck are you talking about with this “flour riot” bullshit? It was a massacre. Fuck off trying to blame Palestinians for it.
Flour massacre is fair. I’m not exactly stumping for Israel when I say that they would love to use another incident involving US troops as propaganda. Ultimately, Israel is at fault for their deaths no matter how it occurred.
Again, this was just the first drop, so the number of people needing food immediately is what’s relevant. Air drops are a terribly inefficient way to do this, but they are also the safest for everyone. The air drops are expected to accelerate, and other methods of delivery are being negotiated. The appropriate response is “great, but we need more, and we need to make them unnecessary.” Calling them “a fucking joke” is as likely to contribute to ending deliveries as it is to encourage accelerated deliveries.
The safest way to do this would be to force Israel to stop doing genocide.
EDIT Oh look Israel massacred aid-seekers again!
We don’t need to be airdropping aid packages into Gaza. We need to be airdropping something else onto the IDF.
I appreciate (and share) the desire, but the idea that the US can force Israel to leave Gaza isn’t realistic.
US support for Israel is done in pursuit of US interests. Those interests aren’t going away, and are neither particularly sinister nor altruistic. Israel depends on aid but, under Netanyaho, it doesn’t care where that aid comes from. If the US pulls out, Russia has multiple incentives to take it’s place. That is not an acceptable outcome for America, and would arguably be a disaster for Palestine too.
I do not argue that the Biden administration has done everything it should to restrain Israel but, from a cold foreign policy perspective, the leverage the US has is far more limited than people think.
Of course the US always has the capability to project military force into the situation, and Israel has no realistic means to resist that. However, I don’t see where support would come from for such a move. It’s not there internationally, domestically, or even popular with supporters of Palestine.
First off, Russia doesn’t have the capacity to fight in Ukraine and support Israel. It would bankrupt itself.
Secondly, Russia doesn’t have the geopolitical capacity to alienate its allies like Iran by supporting Israel’s genocide. Russia would basically be cutting itself off from every other ally it has except maybe China, and for what? A country that will gladly backstab Russia at the first opportunity?
Your realpolitik excuse is just that. The reality is that Israel is dependent on the US and has no one else that will step in to fill the void.
Iran is the only ally Russia has that has a real interest in what Israel does to Palestine. If Iran has to choose between Russia and Palestine, that doesn’t end well for Palestine. Countries have interests, not friends. Russia would leap at the chance to be Israel’s protector while fighting the “Nazis” in Ukraine. It fits right in with their narrative and would make it harder for Europe to escalate aid to Ukraine.
Even if it’s not Russia, you already named the other option. China would also love to give the US a black eye.
Biden has no interest in this genocide. It does nothing for him, it damages him politically, and his administration has been against it from the start. The reason he isn’t doing what you think he should is exactly what I’m saying.
Biden is deeply flawed, but his delusion about being a man of principles is real. He does not want this to be his legacy.
What about Syria? You know, the country Russia has sunk billions of dollars into and has military bases in? You think they’d just let that asset go?
Russia and China don’t have to give the US a black eye when it keeps punching itself in the face. It’s increasingly isolated on the world stage because the entire world is revolted by what Israel is doing. The ICJ and ICC proceedings are going to make Israel geopolitically radioactive and Biden is tying us to a sinking ship. Every crime of Israel reflects back on the US and it’s going to destroy the so-called “rules based international order”. You’ve invented some nice sounding real politik excuses for Biden, but I have an alternative explanation.
Biden is a Zionist. He has principles and his principles say that there needs to be a white settler-colony in the Middle East to act as the US’s unsinkable aircraft carrier.
And it’s backfiring on us and is going to destroy every piece of diplomatic power the US still has in this quickly multipolarizing and dedollarizing world.
Gotta start somewhere. I bet the airdrops are a stop gap while the trucks get organized.
If I had a nickel for every “baby step” and “I bet next Biden will” comment, I’d have enough to refund UNRWA again.
I mean yeah it’s a bet not prophecy. I leave that to NCD
A better solution would be to use the SDVs to deliver supplies directly, it’s been done before in Africa.
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