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There is plenty of toxicity, but I don’t think it “migrated” from reddit. It’s just a property of people.
Blaming reddit for reddit’s behavior is a very reddit thing to do.
Yes exactly, the difference between Lemmy and Reddit is that while Reddit encouraged toxicity it for engagement purposes, Lemmy admins are incentivized to shut it down ASAP.
There will always be sucky people wherever humans congregate, the question is will they be allowed to disrupt everyone else.
I thought so until I went back to reddit and saw the difference. Just today there was a post on PublicFreakout about Just Stop Oil sitting in front of a bus and over 300 comments wishing the bus driver would have ran over the protestors and killed them. It was actually insane.
Yeah it’s terrible that people wish other people would die due to their beliefs or activism. It’s just not necessary and just plain inhumane.
On the other hand I just wish these just stop oil protesters weren’t so dumb. I still remember the UK article about them halting a tanker truck. Meanwhile the driver is talking to a news crew saying something along the lines of “Yeah but that’s cooking oil”
Then there’s the thing about them hiring a hall for a rally and holding a banquet. With plastic cutlery… Like what? You’re using oil based shit. At least check yourselves in the mirror before you go out and tell others how to go about things.
Yeah the attitude on Reddit of using a car as a self defense weapon against protestors really baffled me during the BLM protests. They downvoted me like mad when I said it was cringy and sick for them to get so hyped over clips of it happening
A few weeks ago I saw a reddit thread where the general consensus was that microtransactions were ok and even good. How it has changed from its heyday.
I don’t know if I’ve seen more toxicity per se, but I definitely have seen more negativity recently. I remember when I first got here during the reddit protest stuff, everyone was so nice and it felt very refreshing compared to reddit. Now I don’t get that feeling. There are still plenty of nice people, but there’s just a lot of bitterness regarding the state of the internet right now.
As well there should be. Enshittification is here to stay it seems.
Nice people are still around, but in smaller communities
This place feels too political sometimes. I’m alright with being political, but just with the right amount.
To be fair, choosing Lemmy over Reddit is absolutely a political choice, hence people here are going to be more politically-minded.
Somewhat. I’ll use myself as an example.
When I first came to Lemmy, I was more defensive than I realized. I had gotten used to aggressive, obnoxious behavior. Soon, I noticed that wasn’t an accepted norm here. It only took a couple days to realize, but I needed a few weeks to actually get out of the habit. In those early days, I’m sure I brought some toxicity with me.
Now, though, I don’t create, feed, or encourage toxic comments. I just assume it’s an honest mistake, poor choice of words, or someone whose primary language isn’t English. If I choose to reply, I’m friendly, and give them the benefit of the doubt. If a comment seems deliberately rude or trolling, I don’t engage at all.
Also, how nice is it to be able to give (or get) the benefit of the doubt?!? You can make a spelling error without getting three or four pedantic screeds! I didn’t realize how much I missed basic civility until I rediscovered it here!
Kudos on the introspection and growth, my friend
Not really. Disagreement, even angry disagreement, but only hexbear did I find truly toxic.
Conversely, I had to use reddit recently (to find an old post) and I don’t know if its because I haven’t been there for months and I’d forgotten how bad it is or if it is actually worse but fucking hell it was like a war zone.
Yeah I popped over there for a sec and holy hell what a toxic crap hole. Like, ok, on lemmy there are a few shitty takes here and there. But most of the folks writing them are generally ok and it is a one off. Discussions are mostly good faith and reasonably civil. Signal to noise ratio is so much higher.
On Reddit it is just a deluge of hateful bullshit and most of those post an endless stream of it. Nearly all the discussions are bad faith full of venom and ire pushing propaganda and lies and hate. With downvote brigading and astroturfing galore.
(Mind you I don’t see anything from hexbear anymore… Quite a few really bad eggs from that basket JFC)
Big same on that second paragraph.
Kinda? Maybe not explicitly toxicity, but some passive aggressiveness.
I’ve grown pretty accustomed to stuff like that – you get used to it after spending so many years on open forums.
I used to try to “clap back” but I realized that’s a waste of time and it doesn’t help whatever situation the person on the other side might be going through. I now tend to just move on and keep myself busy with something else.
I don’t know about toxicity, but I despise seeing the same damn low-effort, popularity seeking, and pointless questions on asklemmy as askreddit is polluted with. Really not a fan, and I downvote every single one.
Not really. I’ve seen a lot arguments on here actually resolve amicably instead just degrading into personal attacks. Also seen people take criticism
Not really. One of the things that annoyed me on Reddit was posting something and getting told to search the subreddit for a similar topic or question that was posted a over six months ago but people here are pretty chill and willing to engage in a conversation instead of just commenting a joke or “This” or at the very least understanding.
Could be people just appreciate having content to engage with.
I quite liked the joke threads, specifically because they were threads and I could close them all in one tap if I wasn’t in the mood.
The “This” and “+1” shit can stay away though. There’s an upvote button for a reason.
I quite liked the joke threads, specifically because they were threads and I could close them all in one tap if I wasn’t in the mood.
I guess I just never cared for the Reddit style of humor. Especially when I was looking for additional information on a topic.
The “This” and “+1” shit can stay away though. There’s an upvote button for a reason.
People there really seen to put a lot of weight in up votes. I wonder how much of that is fishing for karma
I really don’t miss the top level comments with the “edit: wow, thank you so much for all the upvotes!” award speeches appended to the end of them.
I’ve never seen those on Reddit, more on YouTube.
Not sure what to tell you. It was very frequent.
I think it started to fade a bit before the new reward system was implemented
I habitually downvote any dismissive “just Google it” replies.
I feel like Google’s search results have also turned to trash in the last couple years making that an even more annoying statement.
Actually had a conversation the other day on Lemmy with another user where we disagreed on a topic.
We did not attack each other or were agressive. So I’ll take that as a win
I mean, the toxicity wasn’t a reddit thing, it was the users. Reddit was big, so many were there. Some of those users moved. So it’s here on lemmy too now.
Me, i am the toxicity that migrated from Reddit, I am Dimethyl Cadmium.
I have gotten downvoted a good amount for comments that lean more right or contrarian, I don’t really know if that can be helped and that’s not the majority of my comments so it doesn’t ruin my experience or anything. But it does contribute to an echo chamber.
Mostly annoyed me because on the Liftoff app it wouldn’t show comments voted below zero on my profile and I used to want to check back in on the further discussions my comments spawned.
Grab boosted. Liftoff was great at first but it had so many damn flaws like what you said that I switched.
Yeah I find that there is almost zero nuance tolerated , though better than reddits absolute zero. If you have any opinion differing slightly from others it’s easy to get called an idiot or fascist.
At the very least everyone here seems to be on the same page about women being people, so definitively an upgrade.
