Please say coconut?!

  • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    Define “bullshit”. Like, they’re all real. Milk has meant “white liquid” for about a thousand years in English so they’re all justifiably called milk.

    Nut milks use a lot of water in places that often have shortages so that’s troubling.
    Oat milk and rice milk are pretty good.

    I’d avoid milkweed sap or dandelion milk.

    Coconut milk is fine, if you’re into coconuts.

    Milk of magnesia is pretty cruddy.

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      9 months ago

      Cow milk uses like twice the water of almost milk and almond milk is like five times as much as most other plant milks.

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        Yup. Biggest issue is that almond milk mostly needs to be made in places that have some water issues to contend with, whereas if I buy milk it’s coming from nearby, where there’s plenty of water.

        I’m partial to oat milk 'cause I like it’s texture a bit more.

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    Watch out for added sugars, and try different brands. I tend to like Planet Oat better than Oatly for example. Almond milk is usually great straight from the carton. Oat milk works well in iced coffee. Unsweetened Soy milk is good in sugary cereals. Etc etc.

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      Planet Oat is where it’s at. I use the regular unsweetened for breakfast cereal and their creamer for coffee. Plus they sell different flavors and creamy options.

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    Not sure what you mean, but here are some considerations. See which is important to you and then others can opine?

    Taste (subjective. E.g. I find anything that is tetrapak vs refrigerated to have a ubiquitous off taste)

    Versatility
    (some hold up better in hot liquids than others; or have a necessary thickness for cooking or baking)

    Nutritional Profile
    (soy is usually naturally higher in protein; oat and rice milk are high carb / glucose load)

    Cost

    Quality of ingredients, including how processed they are

    Inclusion of undesirable ingredients
    (e.g. oils, thickeners)

    Ecological impact
    (Amount of water to produce e.g. almonds vs oats; over harvesting e.g. coconut)

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    All non-dairy milks have their place, so it depends where you’re using it as a replacement to cows milk.

    I enjoy Oatly oat milk for cereal, coffee, and if a recipe calls for milk I typically use it.

    Coconut milk is delicious in smoothies.

    Nut milks are good in baking.

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    I eventually settled on oat milk as I found it the best for my coffee habit.

    Coconut milk’s fine, bit too sweet for my tastes personally.

    Honestly they’re all fine.

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    9 months ago

    Oat milk isn’t awful, but it gives me TREMENDOUS gas. Crossing the line between “OMG, ARE YOU OK?” and “OMG, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??!?!?”

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      Sounds like maybe you should try another milk. I’d suggest rice milk. I prefer plant milks because cow milk just tastes off and I bounce between rice and oat because sometimes one or the other isn’t in stock and I like them both.

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        Is rice milk generally ecologically friendlier than almond? It’s crazy to me how many gallons of water are required to produce a single almond. I like almond milk, but its slightly better taste ain’t worth that.

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          Almond milk is the worst ecologically friendly alternative to milk TBH. Rice and oat are tons better in that respect. There isn’t any ethical consumption under capitalism, but, in short, if it isn’t almond (still better ecologically than milk) then it’s definitely leagues better than milk.

          I forgot where I saw a graphic of it, but I’ll find it and post it

          I found the graphic, what I said before this was about the water usage, and I was, overall, wrong, but cow milk is definitely worse than any alternative in this list:

          (I just woke up, so if this doesn’t have alt-text, then I forgot to add it afterwards)

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            Well, that is unfortunate news for me. Never mind milk, meat consumption is ridiculous, and government subsidized to boot… Not that that’s done much good for the price of the average McDonald’s burger.

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          You just need to find friends who can accept you for the monster you become afterwards 🙏

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        “We’ve replaced the milk in Bob’s breakfast cereal with canola oil. Let’s see if he like it.”

        • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.world
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          Are you on drugs? It’s extremely difficult to understand anything you’re saying and you’re just coming off as condescending. Particularly with your odd choice of words. I can’t think of any other good reason for your behavior besides you being on drugs.

          • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldOP
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            Fat == good

            Maybe i should go to bed altho i feel like you’re being quite dramatic. Two things can be true methinks

            Bitch please (also, I’m unfortunatley not on drugs, despite my usual preference so know that.). No need to continue when no value has been initially profferred, its reasonable to say imo

            So new, your account. It would be a great feature to remove that

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      9 months ago

      Ive heard things like “almond milk only has like a small amount of almonds per unit sold” or whatever. To the point where it would literally make more sense to eat some almonds with water and be better off

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        Well, that depends on your objective. If your goal is to eat almonds, then almond milk isn’t very efficient.

        If you’re looking for a creamy base for cereal or hot coco, then concentrated almond puree or raw almonds and water is really not ideal.

        Adding water to anything dilutes it.

        It’s like saying that you’d be better off eating a chicken bone and a glass of water than making broth for soup.
        Heh, or that dairy milk is bullshit and you should just eat a stick of butter.

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            You keep using clever sounding words but something tells me you think they mean something different from what they actually do mean and you’re using them to try and seem smarter than you actually are.

            Stop it

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                If your goal is “efficiency”, butter gives you more dairy per unit cost. Milk has a lot of water in it, and removing that water and treating the resulting solids different ways gives you different dairy products, of which butter and cheese are two examples.

                A stick of butter is not a substitute for a glass of milk, illustrating my point that a fist full of almonds isn’t a substitute for a glass of almond milk.

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                  The problem is I believe you’ve got that exactly bsckwards in that a fistful of almonds is potentially far greater than a glass full of almond milk

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        Cow milk has a small amount of cow too

        On a serious note, if you like it, drink it

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        What are you talking about? Better off how? In what way areplant milks bullshit? What the fuck, man? These are not complete thoughts.

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          I want you to read the parent comment and extrapolate and make reference to the notion that some plant milks may be falsely representing the amount of the subject content they purport to contain by virtue of that being a “milk” of them

          Please educate yourselr prior to feeling the righteousness you are exuding here

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        What do you mean by “better off”?

        I guess it would have the same nutritional value, but that’s not really why you drink milk. Like, I could eat peanuts, grapes, and bread for a healthy meal, but I’d much rather have a PB&J (probably with a creamy glass of oat milk).

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        If anything, the bad part of almond milk is that it’s the milk alternative that needs the most water to produce. Like a ton of water.

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          Not a bad answer although i think it sort of misses the point that its not so much about the overabundance of the water so much as the underabumdance and likely overrexaggeration of the amount of the non-milk content

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            I mean the reality of these “milks” is that they’re all water with a little something else added in. As long as they taste good and go well with your cereal and coffee, does it really matter if there’s not a lot of non water substance?

            At least for me, I just want something I can drink with a piece of coffee cake, or a cookie, or pour over my cereal or oatmeal. I love cows milk, but it gives me the runs these days. I’m not necessarily looking to replace the nutritional value of milk. That’s too hard to do. I’d rather get my protein from another source.

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        9 months ago

        Makes a good hot chocolate too.

        Just don’t make it with banana… I tried it and it jelled up.