It would take years for the UK to rejoin. First there’d have to be public polling, referendum and a desire by the sitting government to start the process then it’ll be however long it takes for the EU to debate the application and then the UK needs all members to accept the application. Currently neither the two largest UK parties want to even re-open the brexit debates. So basically it’d be at least over a decade.
We could maybe be on a Norway-style deal sooner than that though… Some things like single market access or Erasmus membership don’t necessarily require the long process of EU accession
They’re still forced to adopt it as soon as they reach some requirements. The worst player is Sweden, that’s actively trying not to reach the requirements so they can keep the crown
That would require Freedom Of Movement, which from my experience living in the UK at the time of the Leave Referendum was the main thing driving the Leave vote, closely followed by the UK having to follow EU directives (i.e. the whole “sovereignty” malarkey).
Looking around (not the just UK), xenophobia has become even stronger since, not weaker and Norway-style is still mainly “following EU directives”, though with some opt-outs in things not to do with Trade or Freedom Of Movement.
Also this time around it would be Spain as an EU member whilst the UK tried to get in (the reverse of last time) so they would probably demand to get Gibraltar back as condition for their vote (which is required since a unanimous vote is required). More in general pretty much any EU member with a bone to pick with the UK would get their chance, which might also be interesting for the likes of Greece (better make sure there isn’t a leftwing government in Greece given how the UK literally intervened militarilly to make sure at the end of WWII that the Fascists ended up in power in Greece, a dictatorship that lasted until the 80s).
I think it’s only unfair for people who aren’t nationalists.
Those who think they’re important because they hail from an important country, on the other hand, deserve the bad along with the perceived good. Sadly in my experience Britain is thick with nationalism, heavilly promoted even by the slant of international news on TV (were Britain’s importance to the rest is always exagerated), much more than other countries I lived in.
IMHO, Brexit was powered by that excessive nationalism and even the Remain side displayed a heavilly nationalist streak (I remember the “we should stay and change the EU from the inside” argument, implying that 50 million Britons should lead the other 470 million in the EU) so it’s only fair if others reciprocate.
Personally I think most Britons deserve it, though definitelly not all.
would we really though? think about them driving around in their austin powers union jack painted minis, just whipping around random roundabouts saying “I say” and “buh herr hear haar”
When is that going to happen? I would be very happy to have you back in the club 😊
It would take years for the UK to rejoin. First there’d have to be public polling, referendum and a desire by the sitting government to start the process then it’ll be however long it takes for the EU to debate the application and then the UK needs all members to accept the application. Currently neither the two largest UK parties want to even re-open the brexit debates. So basically it’d be at least over a decade.
We could maybe be on a Norway-style deal sooner than that though… Some things like single market access or Erasmus membership don’t necessarily require the long process of EU accession
This is more probable, because there’s no way the UK is ever going to accept to abandon the pound sterling and migrate to the euro after re-entry.
Then again, a ton of countries haven’t accepted the Euro yet even though they pinky promised they would. Look at Poland
They’re still forced to adopt it as soon as they reach some requirements. The worst player is Sweden, that’s actively trying not to reach the requirements so they can keep the crown
Maybe but that would also mean people from let’s say Poland can live and work in the UK right? I thought that was one of the bigger Brexit points.
That would require Freedom Of Movement, which from my experience living in the UK at the time of the Leave Referendum was the main thing driving the Leave vote, closely followed by the UK having to follow EU directives (i.e. the whole “sovereignty” malarkey).
Looking around (not the just UK), xenophobia has become even stronger since, not weaker and Norway-style is still mainly “following EU directives”, though with some opt-outs in things not to do with Trade or Freedom Of Movement.
Also this time around it would be Spain as an EU member whilst the UK tried to get in (the reverse of last time) so they would probably demand to get Gibraltar back as condition for their vote (which is required since a unanimous vote is required). More in general pretty much any EU member with a bone to pick with the UK would get their chance, which might also be interesting for the likes of Greece (better make sure there isn’t a leftwing government in Greece given how the UK literally intervened militarilly to make sure at the end of WWII that the Fascists ended up in power in Greece, a dictatorship that lasted until the 80s).
Ugh, it sucks to be taken revenge on for things that you literally weren’t even around for to be able to stop.
I think it’s only unfair for people who aren’t nationalists.
Those who think they’re important because they hail from an important country, on the other hand, deserve the bad along with the perceived good. Sadly in my experience Britain is thick with nationalism, heavilly promoted even by the slant of international news on TV (were Britain’s importance to the rest is always exagerated), much more than other countries I lived in.
IMHO, Brexit was powered by that excessive nationalism and even the Remain side displayed a heavilly nationalist streak (I remember the “we should stay and change the EU from the inside” argument, implying that 50 million Britons should lead the other 470 million in the EU) so it’s only fair if others reciprocate.
Personally I think most Britons deserve it, though definitelly not all.
Plus, it’s unlikely that the UK will get the same terms they had when they left. That will have to be negotiated as well.
would we really though? think about them driving around in their austin powers union jack painted minis, just whipping around random roundabouts saying “I say” and “buh herr hear haar”