• ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    No it has nothing to do with my specific situation it has everything to do with looking at human history and realizing we’ve been destructive barbarous cunts the whole time.

    We literally just act like we’re not or ignore the obvious violence that has been constant on this planet.

    And honestly it’s not even just humans. Other animals are also incredibly violent and cruel. They just generally don’t have the ability to know what their doing is cruel.

    Like a monkey eating another animal alive because killing it takes more effort. Or a group of hyenas gnawing at the ass of an animal because it’s the easiest part to chew through which results in the animal staying alive until it’s about halfway eaten and dies of blood loss. Or the fact that a lot of animals can survive with mortal wounds for days just prolonging their suffering before their certain death.

    Life is fucked all the way through.

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      9 months ago

      I encourage you to look at experiments with kids involving altruism. The research suggests much of our fucked up nature is rather learned through the environment. The more we improve our environment, the more we’ll likely see that altruism shine through. Not to say psychopaths don’t exist, but they are extremely rare, and research demonstrates that they can live relatively well without acting on their impulses with proper treatment, too.

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      9 months ago

      Hunter gatherers weren’t so bad, it was just when we started saying “this land is mine” that we ran into true savagery.

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        9 months ago

        Hunter gatherers hunted and gathered mega fauna to extinction too. So aggressively did we hunt before we even wrote anything down that we had to settle down and say “this land is mine, and you may not take the grain from it”

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          9 months ago

          Mass Extinction Cycles have been part of this Planets normal cycle for a LOOOOONG time before humans started doing it too. Oxygen, the thing that all current life in this planet needs, caused one with its mass introduction. Literally everything that people list as reasons for hating humans show up everywhere in nature and other animals. Theres a shitload of good things we have accomplished that cant be said for nature and other animals though. The thing thats unique about humans, and why I think it means we need to eventually leave this planet and turn it into a nature reserve, is that we managed to escape Natures checks and balances, which, to be clear, is death and starvation. Being able to provide quality life for almost all humans born, regardless of health and mental conditions is amazing, but unfortunately makes us incompatible with nature, and if we removed our selves from that, NOT by killing ourselves, but instead by creating our own environments on space stations and dead planets, we can have all of the positives, without the negatives of being incompatible with Nature

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            9 months ago

            Humanity has driven 70% of all species to extinction since our first steps.

            We are equivalent to a super volcano or a meteor.

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        9 months ago

        How many megafauna did we hunt to extinction before we even invented language lol. Humanity is literally a disease. We exploit resources until there is nothing left to exploit. Every. Single. Time.

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          Yeah Homo Sapien wasn’t the only species to evolve as a bipedal hunter gatherer and yet somehow we are the only ones left… Hmmmm