Really annoying!

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    This is or was part of their anti-spam/flooding protection. In the server admin dashboard, you can require a phone number on the account or you can disable it and allow users without verified phone numbers to participate.

    They do not require this just for a discord account last I checked. It’s likely due to whatever discord server you’re trying to join.

    Same for Twitch. Same for a Microsoft account. It’s become the new normal.

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      It’s because your data is orders of magnitude more valuable if it has enough information to identify you as a person.

      They can’t sell it to data brokers for a lot of money if those data brokers can’t find any information to link that data with their existing profiles.

      Surveillance capitalism 101, companies obtain the most value by enabling other corporations to spy on every detail of your life.

      If you can’t use a service anonymously, without it being linked to your actual person, then you can either be okay with living with the panopticon, or don’t use the service.

      Discord has been slowing rolling this out over the years. It started being offered as a “spam protection” feature and eventually it’ll be a requirement to have an account.

      They depend on the masses of people who will trade all of their privacy in exchange for not having to learn how to use VoIP software, video streaming software or IM software.

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      Discord definitely does have phone number verification on selected accounts if it thinks you are doing something suspicious. Just try making a discord account with protonmail and on a VPN and you should get a similar message.

    • moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      They do not require this just for a discord account last I checked. It’s likely due to whatever discord server you’re trying to join.

      This has changed, it gives you this popup whenever you make a new account, even if you haven’t joined any servers. I tried making an account for my brother a few months ago, and I saw this as well.

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      This is or was part of their anti-spam/flooding protection.

      That’s the official explanation. A phone number is a nice way to attach a real world identity to the data (which of course is sold to advertisers/data brokers etc).

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        Again - which isn’t required. You don’t have to supply your phone number.

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        I don’t think many people know about sim-swap attacks, so they think people knowing their phone number is fine.

        Honestly I wish people would just fucking get rid of phone-number-based OTP anyways. TOTP is where it’s at.

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    There was a server I poked around in once that required members to provide phone number just to join. Seems very unethical considering all the bad things that can happen from identity theft or stalking… it’s not like mods are employees for Discord. They’re just random mofos. Why would I trust a stranger on the Internet of all places?

    • Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com
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      The server owners can’t see your phone number. Discord allows you to set a minimum verification level for users in your server. The lowest is simply having a verified email on their account. The highest is a verified email, a few minutes old (so no brand new accounts), been in the server for a few minutes, and a verified phone number. It’s just a bot prevention thing, because spammers/scammers are a big issue on large Discord servers. Especially early in Discord’s history, it was a big issue where bots would raid a server and just totally shut it down with spam links. So Discord started allowing server owners to set minimum verification levels before users could interact and send messages.

    • SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      The server owners cannot see your phone number. It’s just a way to keep bots and assholes out most of the time.

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    I created an account without a phone number. What really anoys me is there focus on IP addresses. They apparently don’t realize IPs rotate.

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      If we had ircv3 specs that included reactions. etc we might be. I rolled a small group of IRC servers with a few selfhost people a year back and it was quite fun. Tbh IRC itself is still alive and well, it’s just not user friendly enough to get non-tech people over easily

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    What’s really annoying as well, is that if you try to remove your phone number from your account, your account will get blocked for “suspicious activity”, after doing the required captchas it will get unlocked but your phone number is still there, trying to remove it again will just lock your account again, how is that legal?

    • vfsh@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      For what it’s worth I literally just removed my phone number from my account after reading your comment and it did it no problem. Haven’t gotten any suspicious account alerts yet but if I get one I’ll come back and update.

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      Because legal people get the protection of the law, shiti organics are there to be abused by legal people.

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    I needed my for some kind of organized event, it took them a week to take my account out of the spam filter, where they put me without event saying a word. By then it was too late, I made the fucking account and gave them my number for nothing else than troubles.

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    for me it wanted one after i added too many friends at once

    it some agressive anti spam “ai” that more or less randomly decides if it wants a phone number or not

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    What the FUCK.

    I immediately went to settings and, I guess at some point I’d already given these swine my phone number? Went to remove it and I’ve greeted by this wonderful toast message=

    1000012070

    God I wish something was fully suitable as an easy discord replacement 😭 spacebar seems rad if it wasn’t super alpha. And as cool as element is, it just doesn’t have the same low bar to entry that discord has (not to mention group calls are jank as hell, when they work, and there’s no screen share yet tragically)…

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      YMMV . Created my account using vpn , basicly never used it while not connected to it , not once I’ve gotten phone verification prompt

      Dunno exact conditions for it to show up , kinda paranoid about it