• agent_flounder@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Trans kid was murdered. Any decent human being considers that the main issue.

    The kid wasn’t killed directly because of the laws but because of anti-trans hate. Bathroom laws only foment that hate.

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        9 months ago

        “The bullying had started in earnest at the beginning of the 2023 school year, a few months after Oklahoma governor Kevin Stitt signed a bill that required public school students to use bathrooms that matched the sex listed on their birth certificates.”

        Nex was assaulted in the bathroom. The article doesn’t go into detail, but based on context, Nex outwardly appeared like a boy, but was forced the use the girls bathroom. Laws that don’t specifically call for inequality can still be used to harass very targeted and specific group. This is why getting rid of ridiculous bathroom bills is important, and this is why Republicans push so hard to implement them. It’s not about creating safer environment for most people, but about creating a very obvious, uncomfortable, and unsafe environment for a very specific group of people, in this case, transgender and non-binary people.

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            Again, this is speculation. I think the article correctly refuses to identify Nex’s apparent and “legal” gender.

            I supposed if they used the boys’ bathroom they would have been fine?

            Yes, probably. The 3 older girls probably would not have assaulted Nex in the boys bathroom.

            Because teenage boys are known for their kind nature and never physically bully anyone?

            Empty rhetorical question with no relevancy to the problem at hand.

            And they totally wouldn’t have been even more susceptible to bullying?

            More empty rehtoric. Disregarding.

            And I suppose teenage boys would never abuse this new law to be granted access and harass girls in the girls’ bathroom?

            Mostly empty rhetoric here, but the data does not support the argument that boys are temporarily claiming to be girls so they can hang out in the girls bathroom. It’s not like there is some kind of physical barrier preventing people of the incorrect gender from entering a bathroom, you can just walk right in. If a woman goes into the women’s bathroom, and peeps on other women who are just trying to shit in peace, she would get reported, and should suffer the same consequences as man that goes in the women’s bathroom to peep.

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                We are speculating on Nex’s apparent and “legal” gender. We are speculating on the situation under which the assault occured, since there aren’t concrete facts available due to (most likely) representation and privacy concerns for Nex.

                Whether or not Nex would have been assaulted or bullied in the boys restroom is a pointless deviation from your original question that I answered. Roughly paraphrased to “What does this assault have to do with bathroom laws in the US” Nex was, based on the context, mostly likely assaulted and bullied due to a law forcing them to use a bathroom that did not match their apparent gender. Yes, the assault could have occured in the boys restroom, but it didn’t. We can’t focus on what could have happened in the other restroom because then we bring in to question whether or not the assault could have happened anywhere, like the cafeteria, hallways, classroom, etc… its an empty unrelated argument to say that assault could have happen somewhere else. That is why I am disregarding those statements.

                Right, and what “data” supports the idea that genderless bathrooms are safer for trans people?

                You must have misunderstood the statement. My point is that men are not claiming to be women in order to circumvent bathroom privacy and peep on people taking a shit, and if they did, they would suffer the same legal consequences as a woman peeping on other women in the bathroom.

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                    9 months ago

                    Your original question, that I answered…

                    They weren’t killed at all because of the laws, which the title of this article is obviously implying. Why does no one cares that the author is intentionally spreading disinformation?

                    Let me ask you some things

                    The author is speculating that this assault occurred as a direct result of bathroom laws. Not me.

                    Why did this assault occur?

                    Next question.

                    What would be the required evidence to convince you that this assault was related to the bathroom legislation in OK, and the bathroom policies in Nex’s school district?

                    Last question.

                    Where in the article does the author assert that Nex died directly due to bathroom laws? In quotes please.