Way, way too many websites. I have to research all of them just to use one? I have choice paralysis! The corporations are right, I shouldn’t be trusted to make decisions for myself, and the internet should be like cable.
I was talking to someone online who is in Ghana and this is how it is there.
They could theoretically implement this because of unencrypted domain names and ISP blocks, but if they actually tried this, that DNS over HTTPS thing Mozilla was working on - I’m sure it would get a lot more attention, be rolled out very soon, and disable ISPs being able to see or control which domains you were accessing.
Or they’d just use deep packet inspection like russia does for blocking websites
I’ve been using DNS over https for a year or so now, it’s the most traffic on my network.
They would just block anything that’s encrypted.
Could a VPN solve this nonsense?
Yes a VPN could solve it. Run the VPN on a domain you know is good and on port 443 HTTPS.
Not if the only “allowed” services don’t include that VPN.
There are nearly always ways around this sort of thing, but it gets exponentially harder as soon as VPNs get blocked.
This is literally what happens when people defend first-past-the-post! “More than 2 viable choices at the ballot box is scary!” “I need my corporate politicians to protect me from using my brain”
Can’t say I’ve ever seen anyone defend the system in play, just recognizing that it exists and until it’s changed in whatever means possible that playing the protest/spoiler is likely to make things worse.
To be fair I heard these talking points from republicans. The most brainwashed.
I’m no fan of FPTP, but that point doesn’t apply here. Democrats have consistently supported Net Neutrality.
Net Neutrality was legislated by the Democratic majority in the FCC in 2015. It was then repealed by the Republican majority, championed by Pai and Carr, in 2018. It was then reinstated when the Democrats regained majority in 2024.
Wasn’t net neutrality already killed in the us?
The Biden FCC briefly brought it back but it was quickly killed by a Bush-appointed judge based on the conservative majority Supreme Court’s ruling on Loper Bright v. Raimondo which ended the practice of Chevron Deference.
Chevron Deference was a policy that allowed federal agencies to be the interpreters of ambiguous regulations, and in this particular case the uncertainty was whether or not the internet counted as a “utility” akin to electricity and water. The updated interpretation is that the FCC doesn’t have the right to treat the internet as a utility if it is not explicitly defined as a utility by law, so net neutrality was killed.
There is still hope that a later, more progressive Congress and administration could pass regulation declaring the internet to be a utility, or that a later court could change their minds on that interpretation, but for now it’s not looking good.
Everything**
**Sites only we deemed brand safe for you to consume
Well of course.
2400€/m (gov clearance needed) for static IP address.
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I mean META is actually doing this! #aBoringDystopia
65% of Nigerians, and 61% of Indonesians agree with the statement that “Facebook is the Internet”
This is extremely worrying.
Snapchat belongs in the free tier.
What’s the alternative to the corporate web? Tor? Usenet?
Worst case, could have regional intranets. Like people just connect their routers with eachother. Sneakernet over large media between disconnected regions.
But that’s me getting way ahead of myself.
This looks like a lot of fun :)
We’ll need a critical mass of well distributed nerds to make this happen.
If the full extent of this kind of internet existed, Tor would be completely irrelevant on it. Imagine that there essentially are no other sites than what’s approved by isps. It’s the cable model.
Not that such a wild vision of the internet has any chance of taking hold now days. The point of the thread was to make fun of the people who are complaining about lemmy providing too much choice.
They can’t stop people from hosting private servers or creating protocols for bypassing restrictions. And even if they did, things like SSH and remote desktop would be completely useless, but those are necessary for maintaining even the corporate web.
Tor here I come! Haha
Crap, I’d have to get the everything package. Only due to not using any of those platforms but YouTube. Even that I could live without.
It’s already like this in many countries in Asia. They offer data pacakages that are 50GB (for example) for social media data , and only 1GB for regular internet
They offer data pacakages that are 50GB (for example) for social media data , and only 1GB for regular internet
In fairness, social media and streaming are absolute data hogs. I could get by very easily with 1GB for the old school message board internet of the early '00s.
No idea how anyone uses internet for business purposes, though.
my former ukrainian data plan only had 100mb per day, but 10gb on Youtube and unlimited social media (e.g. facebook and reddit + messenger apps like viber, signal and telegram)
to be fair, its not the norm here and it was cheap af back when i was using it (around 1-2$/mo while all other data plans were over 4-6$)
also i was using a vpn with an ssn spoofing feature to make it think all of the websites/services i was visiting were Youtube (that only worked for tcp traffic tho, not udp so no gaming)
and was using telegram bots to download flarge files (there are bots that will take a url and will either return a file located there or a rendered web page)
Damn thats rad! I will try this! I need to do this! Worst caee senario the ISP might block me if they found out xD
PACK 1a
€5/month
Get access to “my self-hosted VPN + obfuscation proxy”
IP over WhatsApp?
Where the fuck is all the usefull stuff, it’s only socials? Where’s maps, or a shared drive
$100/month tier of course
