That ring, it feels nice to kiss it - Tim Apple
Not that ring… The other ring… - Tim Apple
The brown ring
Wow and I thought this genocidal slave-labor corporation really cared… \s \s \s
- Rotten to the Core: How the Gaza genocide has revealed anti-Palestinian racism at Apple
- 7 Apple suppliers in China have links to forced labor programs, including the use of Uyghur Muslims from Xinjiang, according to a new report
- Apple knew a supplier was using child labor but took 3 years to fully cut ties, despite the company’s promises to hold itself to the ‘highest standards,’ report says
I guess a lot of good people will ditch Apple now, right? RIGHT?
For other potentially worse manufacturers. I hate how far it’s all gone, but even buying a used/secondhand device is empowering the prior own to support one of these manufacturers.
I did only a quick search really but couldn’t find if any major android phone manufacturers had stopped advertising on there?
The best option is GrapheneOS on Pixel devices.
Maybe even a refurbished one to minimize Google profits. I usually buy them second hand but still new from people who got them from their carriers for a contract extension.
If you buy a Pixel, you’re supporting Google which is probably worse.
Maybe a Nothing Phone or a OnePlus?
Buy a used one then. GrapheneOS is by far the best mobile operating system. I have used Calyx and have a Lineage tablet. Neither of them compare to how well GrapheneOS works in and of itself as well as with sandboxed Play services
GrapheneOS seems to only run on pixels
PinePhone any good? Sounds like it’s still a bit of a hobbyist device but if it can do the basics of texting and calling that’s all I need.
FOSS alternatives exist for many Android devices. Apple goes to great lengths to block every alternative on all hardware that isn’t mac. I’ve been on iOS since the 3G, but have just purchased an older pixel to start migrating apps and data to GrapheneOS. I wish Pine phone had GOS, but it is what it is.
There is no negotiating with fascists, and Apples #1 market is the US. There is no chance in hell they will defy or deny fascism.
My question is less about the OS than it is the manufacturers paying to advertise on X. Buying from them is supporting X indirectly.
Buy used Pixel or other phone that supports open Android OS, company gets none of your $$.
But that’s all changing the subject.
His point was, at least Apple made a stand to begin with. Sure, they didn’t stick to their guns in the end, but if Apple left, while Android manufacturers continued advertising on Xitter this whole time, then isn’t Apple still showing more spine than the others? Does it really make sense to leave Apple for Android over this?
I’m looking for silver linings and I suppose the marketing people at these companies are much less stressed to have to keep Googling, “how to pretend to give a shit about fellow humans” every time they need to produce a few hundred characters.
Cowards
The one silver lining about the new US administration is that it has helped undermine some fundamental notions around American exceptionalism.
American oligarchs are not that different from oligarchs in other countries.
Its been wonderful purging all my american owned crap from my smart speakers to reddit. Looking forward to getting a linux desktop for the first time in nearly 10 years!
If your last time using Linux was 10 years ago you’re going to be SO PLEASED at how good it is now.
Did you replace your smart speaker or you don’t use one at all?
All unplugged and sitting in a box. It feels much more like a home now that I’m not being constantly listened to.
Why would you have been okay with it enough to purchase one in the first place? As an American, it’s always been pretty clear that American companies are filled with horrible data management. They actively lobby against any sort of GDPR or equivalent data laws and regularly leak data with no real ramifications.
I never really took it as seriously as I should have. I genuinely gave up caring for the sake of ‘convenience’. I’ve seen the error of my ways since.
I just switched over to Linux Mint and, while it’s not perfect, it’s so much better than windows.
Agreed, moving away from American tech stuff is becoming a priority.
American oligarchs are no better than the oligarchs who work with putin or Xi. Perhaps even worse because they tend to be much more dishonest in their rhetoric (constant pompous rants about “changing the world for the better”).
No, I don’t think it’s any particular election. I also don’t think those companies were somehow more liberal when Democrats were in power. But it’s a really bad tendency that they gradually lick the boot more and more. It means they are big enough to be controlled and threatened, and it means governmental overreach is strong enough.
Which phone brand is recommendable at the moment? Fairphone uses android, which can hardly be trusted.
You can install CalyxOS or other custom ROM
GrapheneOS
not on the Fairphone.
Fairphone uses their own custom OS to degoogle things and help ensure privacy. I dont think its perfect but its about as good as it gets. Otherwise you can buy a google phone and degoogle it with Graphene
Fairphone uses their own custom OS to degoogle things and help ensure privacy
no they don’t. the default Fairphone OS runs stock Android with all Google apps. there are degoogled custom ROMs available, and you can buy some models with it preinstalled, but those are managed by third party resellers/partners.
You are right, I had it a little backward. The e foundation makes /e/OS, and they sell a murena fairphone 5 with the OS preinstalled. So you can get a fairphone thay way, or just install it yourself.
Google Pixel + GrapheneOS
Also, if you think Apple’s completely closed source software is more trustworthy than Google’s mostly open source software… LOL
also, idk how true this is, but ive seen that google sells pixels at a loss when they’re on sale (they expect to make back the money by spying on you)
so if you were to get a pixel while it’s on sale and install grapheneos on it, not only would you get a nice phone with a secure os, but you’d do so while costing google money. win win win!
Do things like banking and MFA apps work? I have to have Duo for work
For some it works, for me it doesn’t and graphene is detected as an unsupported OS.
Not sure, I’ve been looking at Graphene myself but haven’t used it. Just passing on what I’ve seen.
Well, the point is I do not trust either. I am on apple now, but my experience with android is that there are apps you cannot uninstall.
On the other hand I have once tried a custom rom, but it was not a great experience. I do think I will need to try this again.
Custom ROMs are all different. Some suck, some don’t. I’ve heard very good things about Graphene. You can even install it from the web in a couple clicks.
You can install /e/ on the Fairphone
or CalyxOS if you’re not too fond of knockoff iOS UI. I’ve been using Calyx on my FP4 for a while now, works like a charm.
Forgot that runs on Fairphone.
Yeah, Calyx is the better option for it
Yeah, the most “free” option is probably android custom ROMs (anything based on lineageos, I suppose).
There are alternatives that are slowly building up, such as postmarketos, but it’s not production ready.
I think KaiOS was a thing for a while, and it’s based on FirefoxOS. But you would have to ditch the confort of a real smartphone and I’m not sure it’s still active?
Trying to get on president musk’s good side
Hmmmm, money
Next up is Tim apple announcing his conversion therapy was successful and that he will now be marrying a blonde fox news anchor on the white house lawn. He’ll then run for Lindsey Graham’s senate seat and carry on the tradition of being the most closeted man in the Senate… And the world.
When Lindsey Graham was asked who his first lady would be should he ever win the presidency, he replied… “My sister”.
Just can’t take those swinging bachelors off the market… one at a time ladies.
What the FUCK, Apple?!
You sound surprised…
I sound pissed off
I wanted to point out that it’s as futile as shouting at the sun for rising again and shiting into your eyes through the window and then I realised how often I do exactly that and now I’m 100% fine with your comment.
I wonder if they will trash Pride.
At least the mask is off. Apple, Google, Meta. None of them care about anything but profit and there isn’t a value they aren’t willing to compromise on if it makes the line go up.
Imagine believing that these companies ever work masks.
They invited Mother Earth herself to announce the latest iWhatever on stage last year. They’re absolutely covered in masks.
Apple is just like the rest of big tech. They tried to play it as if they were the liberal ethical one, but in the end all these private corpos are just the same.
Microsoft/Bill Gates only got a worse rap because they were more successful
Actually about Gates, does anyone know about his stance on the current fascist takeover?
Who cares lol
He’s notoriously short $TSLA, so probably not a big fan of Elon.
I can’t help but feel that a lot of companies would have been better off just staying out of controversial issues only tangentially related to their business.
Money talks and even flat earthers and antivaxx trolls have money.
How quickly most companies have walked back all of the “moral” stances they have taken over the last few years, all within just a few weeks of the political winds changing, should be a lesson to everyone that there is no such thing as an ethical publicly traded company.
They will do what they think will make the most money from the shareholders, no matter what. If you want them too “pay”, the only choice is to stop giving them money.
If anyone ever pays any attention to a company’s posturing and dewy eyes they are truly naive. It is just pandering at best. It is why I want them to be honest and cut out all of the “We celebrate group _____” and all that and just be honest. “We want to increase our stock price by 5 cents.” The best they can be is neutral. A small private company can be positive though.
