Summary

House Democrats are reportedly frustrated with progressive advocacy groups like MoveOn and Indivisible for pressuring them to aggressively oppose the Trump administration.

These groups have driven thousands of constituent calls demanding Democrats obstruct GOP efforts, but leaders like Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer have resisted full-scale opposition.

While 65% of Democratic voters want maximum resistance, party leadership has opted for selective battles.

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      10 days ago

      Hell just a real party that actually persues an democratically decided agenda would be a vast improvement. What we have instead is a coalition of career politicians.

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    There the fucking same… The whole thing is just an illusion of choice to divide people and cause chaos so everything can stay the same…

    And now the crazy conspiracy Trump admitted to stealing the election saying he didn’t need the votes… Elon used his newly paid platform to push the trump agenda because he was going to jail if Trump didn’t win… The whole thing was rigged…

    The only person who could have done something refused and let it happen even if she was wrong Trump would have done exactly the same thing…

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    It’s hard to understand how dismissive they’re being when their own constituents are reaching out to them. Is this article leaving it out or have they given some sort of rationale for choosing their battles instead of going all out?

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      11 days ago

      This is a repost from earlier today.
      The top people in the Democrats party are career politicias. They don’t accept that people are angry nothing is being done while they continue to make money for themselves.

      You can find more discussion about it in the post from earlier today.

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        Thanks for the heads up. Was it in this same community? (I’ll check here for now.)

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        More like they aren’t being paid to care. Silicon valley used to be their donors. They will happily loose votes if they can get those valley bucks back.

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        I’m sure we all have suspicions about them but I want to know what their excuse is, especially considering the dangerous (for them) possibility their jobs could come to an end if Trump solidifies the level of power he obviously wants to have.

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    “We are picking the most important fights and lying down on the train tracks on those fights,” Schumer told The New York Times earlier this month.

    Bro is ineffectual in even his own metaphors.

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      Seriously. His idea is to lay down on train tracks with an incoming train coming.

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      Yeah dipshit we’re not asking you to lie down on the tracks and die, we’re asking you to do what russian anarchists do and rip out the the tracks entirely

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        Careful,people who don’t understand the trolley problem are gonna complain again that there are only two options.

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          the trolley problem doesn’t end by throwing the switch lever. you divert the trolley and then you work to stop the trolley.

          the trolley didn’t get diverted, so more people are in its way and chuck’s performatively jumping on the rails “in solidarity” but unlike me, he’s not tied up and will get up and leave when it gets close

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        Democrats have way more leverage than they’re willing to use. The GOP is as fractured as ever and they have the house with a razor thin margin. Now is exactly the time to play hardball. The GOP will likely need their votes to do anything.

        But instead a foresee them making weak ass concessions at every turn because “we can’t risk having the government shutdown!?!?”

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          the chuck schumers and nancy pelosis act like they don’t know what this is and like mitch mcconnel didn’t hand them the blueprint

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          But instead I foresee Democrats making weak ass concessions at every turn because

          “Now is the time to come together.”

          “Now is the time to find common ground.”

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    “unnamed source” “unnamed Democrat”

    Why don’t these people grow a pair of tits and put their name to their quotes? They’re complaining that the Dem leadership isn’t being brave and fighting, yet they can’t be brave and put their name to critiquing the leaders…? Figure it out.

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      Sometimes it’s strategically necessary to not put a name to yourself if you want to actually be able to influence how things are happening within your organization.

      These people are actually in the thick of it, you’re not. Don’t be so quick to assume you know better than them how things work.

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    do they like getting phone calls to act more oppositional? do they want more phone calls to act more oppositional?

    because removed about it is how you get more phone calls to act more oppositional.

    and now that the base knows they are getting through, any current elected who is not acting more oppositional is almost guaranteed to get a primary opponent who i assure you is most definitely going to act more oppositional. and primaries are won by the most ideological. being a creature of washington is not going to help those people if they don’t get their act together.

    this is also not to mention the countless numbers of elected democrats who after biden’s debate performance completely fell for the media created narrative and treated joe biden’s back not so much like a pincushion but a target fired at by a scattergun at 2 feet. i haven’t forgotten and i won’t forget.

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    What a well-chosen photo at the top of this article. Two utterly uninspiring men with no ability or will to relate to ordinary people and their problems.

    “We are picking the most important fights and lying down on the train tracks on those fights,” Schumer toldThe New York Times earlier this month.

    That’s a more accurate metaphor than he intended. The fascist train will not even slow down as it runs over him.

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    Schumer and his ilk should be run out of town on a rail.

    They’re too old, too milquetoast, and too entrenched in the status quo to be effective to today’s needs.

    Their time is up, hook’m off the stage.

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    This is news? It wasn’t exactly a recent development that made voting a choice between picking a conservative party backed by interests or picking a conservative party backed by self-interests.

    The former is better than the latter, but it’s not much of a consolation prize, considering neither of them give a rat’s ass about the people they claim to represent.

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    Dear House Democrats,

    Fascism is currently destroying the US system of government that you like to call democracy.
    Given the influence on the world held by the US, this is a major threat to practically everyone.
    If it succeeds in taking over the United States, it will be in no small part your fault.

    Kindly do you fucking jobs.
    Now.
    Before it’s too late.

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      What REALLY pisses me off is that feeling that I’m being fucked. My ass has been pulled around to the front like a fucking contortionist and they fucked it right in my face.

      Every email with the “stop fascism” this “stop fascism” that with the goddamn donate button like they’re actually doing anything to stop it OR that they actually believe it in the first place. You know what? They don’t. It’s politics as usual for these people.

      Trump skipped Joe Biden’s inauguration.

      These assholes are always pretending to be the good guys, he gave them a free pass to skip his inauguration when he went on and on about the election being stolen. Or, I don’t know, when he had them all running for their lives on January 6.

      Seeing all of the former presidents sitting there at his inauguration (including Bush, who by the way has said out loud that the man is a threat to democracy) legitimized his position and everything looked like no big deal to all of the people who aren’t paying attention.

      It lends legitimacy to the claim that people are experiencing some derangement syndrome when everybody comes to the big party and it appears to be business as usual.

      And you know what? It mostly is. At least to them.

      These are a rare breed of people who are nasty enough to seek power in the first place. They get it by being two faced. They get it by exaggerating their feelings. They get it by calling a fellow human being whatever nasty name they can think of and then turn right around and shake his hand with their fake smiles and their suits that cost more than my car.

      I. Am. Done.

      I’m done responding to them with donations. I’m done being bombarded with cries of threats that they don’t take seriously except to say what they need to say to raise funds.

      I’m staying out of it. I’ll vote for the lesser of two narcissists/egos when it’s time to do that.

      As others have said. It’s time for a progressive party.

      This isn’t the time of magazines and newspapers telling folks who to vote for. If the internet can’t make a viable third party stand a chance I don’t know what can.

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        This isn’t the time of magazines and newspapers telling folks who to vote for. If the internet can’t make a viable third party stand a chance I don’t know what can.

        You’re trying to light a match underwater. A third part cannot survive in the current American electoral system.

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          It has happened before, so it isn’t impossible. But it would be so difficult that impossible is pretty much the only word that comes close.

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          It’s happened under far less dire circumstances. If it truly cannot in the modern era it will be entirely due to this sort of learned helplessness.