• random9@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I’ve corrected people a few times on this, but then I looked it up, and from what I understand, since language is defined by usage, saying “less” when technically it should be “fewer” is still generally correct. It still sounds alright to me, though oddly the reverse (using “fewer” when it should be “less”) sounds fewer (aka less) correct to me.

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      9 months ago

      I’m a linguist and this is the answer. The correct usage is however people use it, not how a book editor, dictionary, or your third grade teacher think it should be used.

      Example: “there’s” for both plural and singular rather than “there are” versus “there’s/there is”.

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        9 months ago

        The correct usage is however people use it

        If people use “literally” figuratively, does that mean that they’re evolving the language? Or are they just idiots?

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          9 months ago

          Literally is now even officially a contranym. Additionally in the process of making the decision to make it a contranym, they pointed to a number of examples of famous English authors using it as in the way these “idiots” use it.

          Language evolves.

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            9 months ago

            What is the line for language evolution ?

            If I start calling dogs “cats” tomorrow, am I wrong? Or have I just taken the first steps towards making my mark on the English language?

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              9 months ago

              If I start calling dogs “cats” tomorrow, am I wrong?

              If your audience knows what you mean? No. If your audience has no idea what you mean? Yes.

              Or have I just taken the first steps towards making my mark on the English language?

              If it becomes a norm? Yes.

              But what does this have to do with the price of tea in China? We were talking about literally, and how it is literally (the way you mean it) a contranym now. Using it to only mean figuratively (the way you want it to be used), especially when it had been used that way for a long time and even has a history of using is no longer “idiotic” it’s just a common usage of the term. It mildly irks me too, however, I can’t remember the last time I was actually confused by the intent of the speaker.

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        9 months ago

        however people use it,

        The way this is phrased, it sounds like you can’t be wrong. So I would just clarifying that if both the speaker and audience agree on the intent of the speaker, it’s correct.