I know I have small hands but c’mon. Flagship phones these days are strait up small tablets, not even what we’d have called on phablets 15 years ago.
I know it’s what people buy, but I’m still sad that if I want a phone that small then I have to deal with camera and display a couple gens old
Aren’t the Pixel phones reasonably compact still?
The phone on the left is a pixel 7 pro.
So, yes, by modern standards.
But no, as you can see by the comparison to the phone next to it.
And that’s kind of the point I’m making.So, yes, by modern standards
My wife’s P7 and my P8P are both roughly the same dimensions as an old landline handset would be (my phone is maybe half an inch thicker than the landline at my work)
Cell phones of the 00’s were small by phone standards, modern phones are closer to old landline handset sizes than 00’s cells, so I’d say the 00’s cells are the ones off the standard
That’s pretty clearly not the grievance I was complaining about, I’m pretty sure you’re intentionally missing the point so that you can be contrary
Do you carry a landline phone in your pocket whenever you leave the house?
Yep, just bought one the other day and it was about 1/8th" shorter than my previous phone
Still too damn big
6a is pretty good and will be supported for a bit. Wish they were more repairable though…
the A series is smallish, the last small android phone was probably the Asus Zenfone 10, then Asus axed that line and merged the Zenfone line and ROG phone line and followed the ROG phones size. A phones however aren’t flagship so theyd fail the check.
Here I am on my zenphone 10 wishing it was a little smaller
Yea the a series is supposed to be the small, cheap and good line
The non-a but not the Pros are smaller, but “affordable flagship”
Pro series are the big premium flagships or Foldy phones (until el Goog changes their mind (again) at least)
I’d probably have a Pixel if I didn’t have a habit of dropping my phone off the top of a ladder.
This is not true at least not anymore. The pixel 8a is almost the same size as the pixel 8. If anything it’s a tiny bit bigger and heavier
https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_8-12546.php
https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_8a-12937.php
Also the pixel 7, 8 and 9 are all practically the same size which IMO is not small at all. They are all huge with screens over 6in in size.
They also all weight in the 190g ballpark which in my opinion is too heavy as well.
consumers in general wants bigger phone, market follow along
sadly, small phone is a niche now
There’s more to it than that. Big phones are more marketable and have better profit margins. It’s not all consumer preference. Kinda similar to cars actually
I miss phones that experimented.
I had the Motorola backflip (that was a fun one) and had one of the first phones with a fingerprint sensor that everyone said was a gimmick, had the one with the “indestructible screen” (Motorola Z2 force iirc) that I had a lot of fun throwing around till I broke it (But not the screen! I’ll give them that lmao), had every Nexus device until the bitter end (I cursed Google for a long time when they decided Pixels was the way forward, I didn’t pick up a pixel again until the Pixel Fold 0G) and so so many others over the years.
Until one day they just stopped being cool for years, hell the Foldy phone has been the coolest innovation they’ve put out in years and we’re already back to nothing but iterations again
You would really enjoy the When Phones Were Fun series on YouTube if you haven’t seen them
What, Flagship? There’s no small phones anymore.
https://lemmy.world/c/compactphones - the activity here reflects this x_x
iPhone SE is small. I have been buying them when coming out, they have been fantastic. If you want android, not sure what’s out there.
The next one will likely be big. They also discontinued the Mini which was an awesome phone.
Yea unfortunately it could go up in size. We will see shortly
The 3rd gen SE is 4.7 inches, the new one is rumored to be 6.06 and shaped like iPhone 14. MacRumors often gets these things right, too.
That’s too bad. The old se series was great
Same here. The Google Pixel, but I think they recently eliminated the small version.
Flagship means the best of the best, of course it’s gonna be large and fancy lmfao.
There’s plenty of phones that fit your niche, but it’s like expecting a cigar boat to be the flagship of the navy dude lol. Gotta temper yourself to realistic expectations, especially when the term “flagship” is thrown out.
Best doesn’t have to mean biggest.
I want all the fanciest best shit, and I want it to actually fit in my hand
So you don’t want a flagship, you want a small compact phone with all the fixings. That would no longer be the flagship anymore by using established conventions.
Flagship has specific meanings and you’re ignoring them to bitch and moan.
Lol everyone disagrees with you about what the conventional meaning is. It sounds a lot like you’re the one who is ignoring definitions to bitch and moan 👋
??? Multiple people have told you the same thing……
Sounds like you don’t want to admit that you fucked up.
It sounds a lot like you’re the one who is ignoring definitions to bitch and moan 👋
Well sounds is a lot different than being factually incorrect and obtuse like you….
Lol you made up an argument, pretended I said it, and got mad when I corrected you.
You can bring a mule to the comment section, but you can’t make him read the thread.
This makes no sense. Large doesn’t mean fancy. Back in the day, making the phone smaller was fancy.
The minimal company’s flagship phone is a minimal phone. It’s their signature phone. The flagship was the ship that had the ranking officer/admiral on it, representing the fleet. Apple, google etc all decided their flagship phone would be huge.
OP wants more flagship phones, that is the type of phone the company markets as its main phone, to be smaller. It has little to do with the best but how phones are used. So tell him “tough luck because most people use their phones as a TV so they will remain big”. It’s not because that’s a better phone.
This makes no sense. Large doesn’t mean fancy. Back in the day, making the phone smaller was fancy.
Which has nothing to do with the the historical term and already established convention of the term “flagship”, no one has ever called their compact phone a flagship, got any proof to back that asinine claim up?
The minimal company’s flagship phone is a minimal phone. It’s their signature phone. The flagship was the ship that had the ranking officer/admiral on it, representing the fleet. Apple, google etc all decided their flagship phone would be huge.
If it’s not the fanciest and most expensive, then by definition and original convention, it’s no longer a flagship phone.
Terms have specific uses, let’s not dilute them to make ourselves feel better. Language IS fluid, but when people are obstinate to already preestablished conventions… a small phone will never by definition eve be considered a flagship, but bloviate if you want.
Terms have specific uses, let’s not dilute them to make ourselves feel better. Language IS fluid, but when people are obstinate to already preestablished conventions
Ok there why didn’t you bother opening a dictionary or googling it.
noun
the ship in a fleet which carries the commanding admiral.
the best or most important thing owned or produced by a particular organization.
He’s just saying most phones companies (of all sizes) making are big phones. Get over yourself
More specifically, it’s typically the vessel the admiral commands from, not just their one he happens to be on.
So the smallest and worst ship would be the flagship? That’s the defence? Lmfao because that makes total sense dude…. And how is that supposed to defend what a flagship is?
How does that mean the smallest and most compact? As my original comment stated, that’s like claiming a cigar boat is the flagship, which no navy would do even if they were making smaller boats. Their largest and fanciest, would STILL be the flagship of the fleet….
I “did read a dictionary”, which is maybe why I’m speaking? OP fucked up what a flagship is meant to be. Atleast I’m not the one making up new definitions to defend my asinine defence. How does the definition support your argument? It would STILL mean the best and most resourceful unit. Which wouldn’t be the smallest……
the finest, largest, or most important one of a group of things (such as products, stores, etc.) —often used before another noun
Other definitions include “largest” why did you include the one that doesn’t…?
is the lead ship in a fleet of vessels, typically the first, largest, fastest, most heavily armed, or best known.
Which how is that the smallest and most compact…? That’s literally contradicting the established conventions dude lmfao. But again, bloviate about how you don’t understand language and want to make it what you want I guess…. Flagship has established conventions, and OP is asking for the opposite. Full stop.
You aren’t wrong, and I’m not sure why the other person is arguing with you. Seems like that Monty Python sketch about arguing.
He is wrong.
I’m asking for small flagships.
They used to make small flagships.Flagship doesn’t mean biggest, it means best.
If settle for a small non-flagship phone with a flagship camera pod and display tech. But they don’t make those either.
They used to make small flagships.
When??? You keep saying that, but flagships have always been large and fancy and never small and fancy. Can you provide an example? Because what it seems from every explanation you’ve made in this thread, you just don’t know what the term flagship means…
Sounds like you just need to learn words properly, the only one wrong here is you using an established term incorrectly and are conflating a small phone as a “flagship” which has NEVER been the case. Please provide an example of a flagship being small and compact, I would love to see how you came to fuck this well established term up so horrendously.
Each fleet has its flagship lol all companies have flagships. Yes the best phone of each company is their flagship. Flagship phones isn’t limited to some arbitrary sized companies.
And no phone manufacturer has ever called their small phones their flagships, so for to OP to say they miss them, is them not actually knowing what the term is.
Can you provide an example of a phone that fits OPs definition as being sold as a “flagship”? Because OPs arguing for something that’s never been done before.
Flagships CAN be small, but it’s never been done in history before, still waiting for an example, I’ve asked twice now. Because OPs barking up the wrong tree. That’s the issue here.
You’re making this argument, while not providing anything to support it, I’ve even asked for a source to prove your point, all you’ve done is provide a definition that i then provided multiple that directly contradict the one you provided.
Flagship phones isn’t limited to some arbitrary sized companies.
In the history of the term, it’s never been a cigar boat dude…. It’s always the largest and fanciest, not the smallest and fanciest. Prove it dude. Step up or fuck off.
Minimal company’s flagship phone is the minimal phone
Lol who said I wanted “the smallest and most compact”
You’ve lost the plot here, take the L
Does “fit in your hand” not mean small and compact?
I’m not the one using the term flagship to mean a non flagship phone. You’re trying to change established definitions and conventions.
You want a fancy small phone, no phone manufacturer has ever called a phone that fits that description as a “flagship” so to say you miss the. Is just straight up bullshit and you being an idiot and not using established definitions correctly.
Not only is that laughably not true
But even if it was true, it wouldn’t mean anything because being a flagship phone isn’t about size, it’s about showing off your tech.
But like I said, I don’t have to get hypothetical, because phones this big weren’t considered flagships in the past, they were considered “notes” and “tabs”
Those were the days
I would vomit if I had to look at the Windows logo every time I pulled out my phone. Google is not perfect and they’ve made mistakes with Android, but at least it’s Open Source. Microsoft has a much worse record of opposing Open Source initiatives…
This was nearly 20 years ago, Microsoft was annoying but fairly benign at the time. This phone with Windows Mobile 6 was released alongside the first release of android and the first iPhone
You’re right, they haven’t been this overt since the 2000’s. But their flagship OS is still closed-source and forces ads and unpopular privacy violating features like Recall to this day…
Windows phone had a lot of potential
I literally gasped. iPAQ510, my beloved
Why would you buy a flagship phone? It sounds like you want not that. And not that exists.
Because, like I said in the post, flagship phones have the best cameras, and I take a lot of pictures
Image sensor and optics quality drop off pretty quickly once you leave flagship territory.
You have some duo lingo to finish up buddy
It’s true. Idk why people are down voting you
Dunno either it was just a joke, we all have duo to do!
I have the same problem and my latest was an asus zenfone after a ton of research. Its been pretty solid actually.
Zenfone was heavily promoted as a “small” phone but its larger than the base galaxy, despite having a smaller display
Unihertz specializes in small phones. They aren’t flagship spec but they are midrange at sensible prices. They also have keyboard phones and even a phone with a built in DMR radio for Amateur and GMRS use.
Not a plug, I don’t even own one I just love that they are daring to be different.
Chinese company and the phones use Mediatek chips, so no custom ROM support last I checked. Otherwise I would have been all over it.
Not that it’s everyday practical, but you can definitely get small phones. There are definitely lesser known names out there that make phones in all sizes.
I know they exist, but I specifically mentioned flagship phones because they have the best cameras and screens, and I take a lot of pictures
And there’s still room for a headphone jack.
It’sa silly little thing, but manages to get like 5 days standby or 2-3 days light use.
every time i “upgrade” my phone it gets bigger, i hate it. the perfect size was what whatever iPhone 5 was doing, i want to go back to that
iPhone 12 or 13 mini is similar to that size
i don’t use iPhones anymore, that was the one time i tried them and aside from the size and some features i much prefer the openess of android
I’ve never owned an iPhone, and wouldn’t normally recommend them at all, but looks to me like its one of the only recent smartphones that is small 😞
Actually looking into it a bit more: there’s some smallish ones such as the Asus Zenphone 10 and foldables such as the Motorola Razr 50 Ultra.
https://www.tomsguide.com/best-picks/best-small-phones
https://m.gsmarena.com/best_compact_phones_buyers_guide-review-2029.php
But yeah they’re still not as small as the iPhone 5
Wider, longer, flatter, thinner, and harder to hold without touching shit at the edge of the screen. I miss being able to grip a phone by its buttons.
Oof this is the reason why I went with Fold. Basically when folded it takes almost the same area as an iPhone 5 albeit quite thicker. But my hand adjusted to the thickness quite nicely.
Having basically a small tablet when you unfold the phone for actual two handed use is good too.
I loved my iPhone 5 more than any other device I’ve owned. Perfect size.
iPhone 5 / original SE was a good design, and a good size, but it was also the first iPhone I had to buy a case for because it was so damn light and thin it was hard to handle compared to the thicker, glass-plated 4.
13 mini is pretty comparable
iPhone 4S is still the most perfect form for a smartphone I’ve ever owned
We’re the kind of people that are pushing our phones to end of support, it’s not a market that moves product and thus not one the big companies listen to.
I of course don’t miss small flagship phones because my S10e is still perfectly serviceable.
My next phone will be e-ink at any size
s9+ here still. I intend to use this phone until it costs more to repair than to get a new one.
S10e
They can pry my 3.5 mm jack from my cold dead hands. Already got the battery replaced once.
I’m gonna miss that swipe pad on the power button when it finally gives up the ghost.
Also still on a S10e, havent found a newer phone that isn’t a downgrade in some aspects.
This is why I get just the regular s24 or whatever, like the pixel 8a.
I dont like big phones.
Even that’s too big.
That’s a pixel 7 pro on the left, which is only a little bigger than the 7a. I want something way smaller
Hell yeah brotha! Right there with you.
