Anything better?

  • Yozul@beehaw.org
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    15 days ago

    I’ve been using mailbox.org, and it’s pretty great. It’s cheap, it’s private, and it works well.

    I like the idea of e2ee email, but the way they all work it’s pretty much a completely useless feature for most people, myself included, and I also like using Thunderbird. It’s just not worth the trade off for something I’d basically never get any use out of anyway.

  • kekmacska@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    16 days ago

    protonmail, tuta or guerillamail. i’m using proton, it is great, even the free version

  • sunstoned@lemmus.orgEnglish
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    15 days ago

    Another one for Tuta, with addy.io as a proxy service. Nice integration with Bitwarden for making new accounts + it’s simple to make rules based on the to address for easy filtering.

    • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      15 days ago

      I’ve been meaning to check out Addy.io for a while now, because you’re not the first person I’ve seen mentioning it in threads like this. Your comment was the straw that broke the camel’s back and I’ve finally gone and checked it out. Thanks for including a link in your comment; it helped reduce the activation energy of setting it up

  • Yaky@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    16 days ago

    Mailbox.org

    Mailbox Standard compared to ProtonMail Plus:

    • Cheaper (€30/yr vs ~€50/yr; if you don’t need custom domains, €1/mo)
    • More aliases (25 on mailbox, 50 on own domain. Proton has 10 TOTAL - why custom domain aliases are counted against Proton ones does not make sense to me.)
    • Support for any number of custom domains AFAICT (Proton Plus supports only one)
    • Trial account is not allowed to send emails, so fewer issues with services blacklisting proton.me and protonmail.com for spam (hasn’t happened to me, but I have heard of some cases)
    • Can use a regular email client (security tradeoff for E2EE messages - but there already were plenty of discussions on whether E2EE has benefits, especially sending mail to other services)
    • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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      15 days ago

      If you do this it’s good to use something like mxroute as an SMTP server so deliverability is their problem.

      Can I ask what client you prefer?

      I dislike thunderbird and roundcube.

    • jesse@sh.itjust.works
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      15 days ago

      I was looking at moving to Proton as this all went down. Those plans are on hold.

      After reading through it, I am having trouble figuring out how to read his comments because I wonder if there is some different cultural references or simplification going on between the Swis exec and American readers.

      It was absolutely a stupid comment and was then the response was handed badly, but I don’t know that I read it as aligning with Fascism.

      This is the best writeup I can find: https://archive.ph/2025.01.29-213655/https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

      • hbm@feddit.dkEnglish
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        15 days ago

        Thanks for the link. I was about to extend my Proton mail subscription to the full monty, but backed out when I saw the original incriminating post (which did surprise me, based on what I thought I knew about them). The writeup does offer a compelling argument for that one post having been taken a little too far in todays tribal political environment.

        • jesse@sh.itjust.works
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          15 days ago

          Yeah. I am not ready to move to Proton quite yet, but this doesn’t feel like it was intended the way many Americans are reading it. They also have posts like this (not from the an executive I think, but official) that don’t sound like getting in bed with the government: https://proton.me/blog/trump-controls-nsa-fbi

          All that is to say, I am planning to give this a little longer and see what else happens, but I have not ruled out Proton yet.

      • irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        16 days ago

        But the shithead exec is supportive of fascists which means privacy is secondary to the desires of the current regime. That’s just a standard part of fascism. And if the current regime is allowing untested backdoor code to be inserted in the Treasury department and NASA and the CDC and most major social media to strip out protections for people they don’t like, climate change, etc. Just imagine what someone who actually supports them ideologically would be willing to do.

          • irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            15 days ago

            I distance myself from companies run by people who say or explicitly support people who say that I don’t or shouldn’t exist. There are a few other things that make me distance myself from companies, but that one is a pretty hard line. (I’m gender “non-compliant” and on the Autism spectrum among other things that have been explicitly said don’t exist, shouldn’t exist, or need to be “cured”). Otherwise, I try to distance myself from any companies who explicitly collect and sell my information and other things that I find problematic, but that’s not always possible.

            • haverholm@kbin.earth
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              15 days ago

              Keep fighting the good fight!

              (I’m trying to be encouraging, but obviously finding a baseline decent mail or other tech provider shouldn’t have to be a “fight” …)

          • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
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            16 days ago

            People on all social media really can’t seem to understand that the choices aren’t exclusively “everything has a perfect open source, non-profit utopia” and “fuck it, everyone is corrupt so it doesn’t matter what service you use.”

            You are able to do what you can, where you can, to mitigate risks and try your best not to support fascists. Especially when there are a dozen alternatives.

            Then again, maybe people are just arguing in bad faith.

    • over_clox@lemmy.world
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      16 days ago

      Wait, you can search keywords on Lemmy?

      I dunno, I mostly use Jerboa on Android, as far as I know Jerboa can only search for communities, unless I missed something or perhaps need to update Jerboa.

      • LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works
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        16 days ago

        Jerboa doesn’t have all the features, including searching for keywords. You can choose other app richer in features from here, or use web UI.

      • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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        16 days ago

        If your mail server supports aliases, you can make one for each site you sign up for. Then if you start getting a bunch of spam, you can delete the alias and you will know which site sold your information.

    • thirdBreakfast@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      15 days ago

      I started doing this, maybe 15 years ago, but if I look through my spam folder now, most of it is to the email address I used before I began using unique addresses (the rest is to random addresses in my domains that I’ve never used).

      My hypotheses from that are that

      • there is probably less ‘selling of email lists’ going on than we think
      • I’m less interested in dubious internet sites than I used to be
      • or (most likely) these days, your internet thing has to be offering me some real value if I’m going to consciously give you any of my data.
    • notfromhere@lemmy.ml
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      15 days ago

      Just make sure your domain registrar is renewable from an alternate email in case shit hits the fan you don’t want to be locked out if something interrupts the service and bow your email doesn’t work and you can’t verify who you are… because… your email doesn’t work.

      • Dima@feddit.uk
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        14 days ago

        The basic steps are:

        1. Register a domain of your choice
        2. Select who you are setting up your email with (plenty of different providers, Zoho has a basic free plan that would be suitable for a single domain and only a few users at most; Google, outlook etc. also sell services for custom domains)
        3. Configure the DNS records for your domain to whatever your chosen email provider says (MX records to point to the mail server and some records for DMARC & DKIM to prevent your email being spoofed)
        4. Test it all works and start using it

        I’m not going to write a full tutorial so if it sounds interesting I suggest you do more research. The email hosting is typically focused at businesses as they are most likely to be wanting to host email on a custom domain.

    • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca
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      15 days ago

      MXRoute is what I use as my domain’s email server and it’s good enough. The included browser email clients (it offers multiple) are sort of trash but if you just use your own it’s perfect. It’s pretty cheap too