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      Wikipedia is not a source. It’s fine to take information from Wikipedia. But if you are doing actual research. You need to cross reference that with the source cited to make sure it’s accurate.

      Most Wikipedia pages have their sources listed so you can easily look them up and verify their validity.

      If there are no sources cited. You should be cautious.

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      It is unreliable to an extent. If you have expertise in anything at all go look at the wiki for it and you likely will take issues with parts of it or more. That being said it’s good enough for a generalized overlook of something so I wouldnt 100% trust the minutae in a wiki but the general concepts are typically ok

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        The cool thing about Wikipedia is that if you have expertise in a topic and find something incorrect on it, you can edit the page to be more accurate. The trickiest part is finding and adding relevant sources. There’s a learning curve to it, but at least anyone who’s used to writing research papers should have experience with that already.

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      I mean when writing an essay you should really be sourcing from the original source not Wikipedia, good thing Wikipedia lists the original source the info came from so you can just use that. (Unlike some websites the teacher said were better then Wikipedia which were just full of unchecked bullshit)

      But for everything else Wikipedia is great

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        They should have always been teaching to use Wikipedia as a beginning of research. Go to wiki, follow the cited sources and follow those cited searches if anything was referenced.

        There was always a double standard though compared to something like the Encyclopedia Britannica. Pre-internet, for practicality, you couldn’t really check the cited sources on Britannica, so you took it as word of god. They’re a major publication! Huge money and people who wear suits and monocles wrote it! Posh British sounding name! How could they be wrong?

        Except that when researches compared Britannica to Wikipedia for inaccuracies, they found Britannica to contain a much higher rate. So why did Britannica keep being held in higher regard? Pure appeal to authority.

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        Some wikipedia articles have been edited by science/history deniers/fascists/liars and it is difficult to determine if whats written at any point is true or edited. Thats where the statement comes from.

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          There have been some very long lived hoaxes on Wikipedia, but they’re basically the exception that proves the rule. Nothing is infallible.

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    I spent first 8 years in a Christian school, took me to adulthood to learn that evolution theory is not just a “unproven hypothesis”

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      I’ve seen it go both ways. My best friend and her best friend went to a Catholic school, and they hinted that they did learn about evolution but with no added knowledge external to the few Bible verses that were usable to support evolution because they remotely seemed to point to it (and even then it wasn’t referred to as evolution, just the mutation lineage or something).

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        That’s strange, because the Catholic Church officially endorses evolution.

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      it’s funny how much the scientifically illiterate rag on something because it’s ‘merely’ a theory. they decline to acknowledge it’s the ONLY working theory that explains the fossil record, genetics, heredity etc., and has been proven to accurately predict things over and over again.

      I challenge these folks to show me something that works better than evolution to explain all those things, and then it’s a matter of faith or the only reason evolution makes sense is because of the woke agenda educational industrial complex.

      fucking chuds.

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    I got a question right on an electronics quiz about finding the resistance in a curcuit (I have verified I was right).

    My science teacher who didn’t know how to do it in the first place and was just looking at the (incorrect) answer schedule said I was wrong. I just said “I don’t think so but ok” even though I knew I was right as I did not want to argue. As she was walking away I explained to my friend why I was right, my teacher overheard me and came storming to the table saying:

    “WHEN I SAY IM RIGHT I AM RIGHT! AND WHEN I SAY YOUR WRONG YOU ARE WRONG!”

    At the top of her lungs.

    I was just a kid so it put me off science for a bit tbh.

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      I was just a kid so it put me off science for a bit tbh.

      And isn’t that a fucking shame? I mean, science can be such an interesting thing that can improve and enrich your life and can even become a career, but or just takes one bad teacher to let all that go to waste.

      I had a guy teach biology and chemistry, and he was… well just not a good teacher (but a very decent human outside of class, to be fair). Made me really hate his classes and subjects. It took quite a long time for me to get more interested again.

      On the other hand, I had a teacher in computer science teach is the basics of relational databases and object oriented programming in Borland Delphi (yes!), and now that I’m almost 40, I STILL feed on that knowledge, have become a sysadmin, have helped a dozen of co-eds in uni pass their programming test by tutoring them… He’s just a huge part of what I’ve become as a person. One teacher really can make a difference, one direction or the other. Thank you Mr. Barchmann, wherever you are.

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        I also have to thank some of my later science teachers for re-sparking my fascination in the scientific world, three of them were excellent teachers and made the class so entertaining you couldn’t not be fascinated.

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      Oh boy, this reminds me of one test in college where there was a question that had a logical circuit diagram, I don’t remember what it asked exactly but my answer was marked wrong, I went to the teacher the next day and told him I thought that was the right answer and he said “well, it’s not, I’ll demonstrate” and he wrote the question on the board called attention for everyone saying he would show the right answer to the test question, and started answering it. I saw him start to answer and immediately he made a mistake, I raised my hand to point that out and he told me to let him finish. He got to the end of the thing, showed a different result, and said “see, this was the correct result” to which I said “You missed the NOT at the beginning of the circuit”, he looks at it, rewrites some stuff, and gets to my answer to which I said “and that’s what you marked as the wrong result on my test”. He still tried to claim that was wrong because he got the question from book X, and a colleague (who I suspect had also given the right answer) produced the book, looked up the answer and said loudly “the second answer is the one on the book”. Defeated he had to give me (and whoever else had the right answer) at the point for that question. Completely unrelated story, that guy was also the coordinator of the course I was coursing and after months of waiting for recognition of some classes that I had taken at a different college coincidentally the very next week they got denied which meant I would have to take 14 extra classes (so at least a year and a half extra) to graduate, and that some of the classes I was taking that semester would have to be dropped and retaken after coursing the prerequisites (which I was trying to get recognized), one such class was the one where I got the question right… What a coincidence, right?

      I should thank that guy, because of him I dropped out of college, moved to another city, and started at another college where I met my wife.

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    “Respect your elders, because they are always right”

    alt text given below

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    Post by stimmyabby:

    Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority”

    and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person”

    and they think they’re being fair but they aren’t, and it’s not okay.

    End of post.

    Reply post by do-as-youre-told:

    This is so well put I am stunned

    Source: flyingpurplepizzaeater

    End of reply post.

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    I used the word poesy in a written assignment, as in the art of poetry. The teacher didn’t recognize it as a real word and deducted points from my grade. She had a policy that we could correct and resubmit for half points, so I did that but didn’t change the word, I just helpfully gave her the definition in a footnote.

    Shocked, naive, innocent little me did not know what to think when she took that as an insult. I was only trying to help her, didn’t she get that?!?

    This was one of a handful of events when my sister started implying I might have a neurospicy brain. IDK, maybe, but I was just being accurate so I didn’t really see that as anything I needes to address. I thought the overly-sensitive and factually incorrect teacher was the one who needed to self-reflect.

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      My English teacher (in Germany) did not know the word “evil”. She concluded I meant to say “devil”, but then the whole sentence didn’t make sense anymore, so she deducted even more points for that.

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      Had the same with an english teacher (in germany), that probably had a smaller vocabulary than me. Whenever I used words she didn’t know I had to argue with her and pull out a dictionary

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      neurospicy brain

      Hey I have one of these. Maybe not in the typical way, but still. So don’t worry.

      For reasons like you describe where neurotypicals aren’t always exactly known for being critical, sometimes I think of how accurate it might be under some definitions to say neurotypicals are the faultily-minded ones.

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    “You’ll enjoy ice skating, it’s easy!” - the teacher who took our class to an ice rink… 😂

    The moment I’m over the ice I become the human equivalent of a scruffed cat and people started pushing me around like I was a hockey puck and I was smiling pretending I was having fun but inside I was like

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      canadian here: i had a ski part in gym class last year and literally everyone in the class was at least decent, and most were zipping around the ice.

      Not directly related, i just thought it was funny that candians are living up to their stereotypes.

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    My 6th grade science teacher interrupted me while reading aloud after I correctly pronounced “tsunami”. He goes “What’s that?..tuh-soo-mee?”. I said Yeah, he spends 10 seconds digesting it, and I continue reading aloud.

    The next kid to read after me pronounced it tuh-soo-mee.

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      I only pronounced つなみ like that with a t when I was young and first came across the word but then I learned the correct pronunciation

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    Had a science teacher back in middle school that claimed to have a buddy that “designed” a way to make gas engines more efficient by running the gas line over the engine to warm it up before entering the engine. Said that GM bought the “design” with no patent, and hid it away so that it wouldn’t get out. Problem is, that’s not how BTUs work and GM would obviously know that. Also that’s a good way to destroy your engine by misfiring.

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        I know of an engine that runs on water. It’s a shame you have to heat it up a whole lot first for it to become steam.

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        I knew a kid at boarding school who claimed his dad worked at BMW and was looking into this. Years later Im working at BMW in the cafeteria and I meet the kid’s dad. He did in fact look into hydrolysis for making hydrogen for cars on paper but couldn’t figure out how to not make the car explode in an accident.

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          Wouldn’t the hydrolysis of the water take energy that required fuel though? The claim seemed to be more that the water was the fuel so to speak, as in the same way that petrol is in current combustion engines.

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        My mom believes this one (she believes in a lot of crap…). Allegedly there was a dude who made a car run om water, but the evil oil company Shell bought the idea so that it would never come out!

        That is of course ignoring the fact that the supposed guy wouid still have knowledge on how to build one.

        Or… The simple fact that water can’t be used as a fuel like that.

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    Isn’t a single teacher or statement. But how I was generally treated by the institution.

    I am somewhere on the spectrum and/or have some kind of learning disability that makes the formal learning environment very hard for me.

    I was tested as a kid back in the 80’s, but they said I didn’t score bad enough to be diagnosed and that I was just slow essentially.

    So the school system stuck me at a desk in the back corner of the classrooms with a divider between me and the the rest of the room and more or less treated me like a leper.

    Whatever the official diagnosis, I ended up getting into computers and turns out I am really good at it. So now I make a six figure income doing something I am interested in.

    The experience ingrained in me a deep hatred for formalized education, especially when it comes to my son (who is officially diagnosed as autistic). I have a very hard time taking anything my kids teachers say seriously and as anything more than the rantings of a narrow minded fool. Thankfully, my wife being the wonderful person that she is keeps me in check with that. And reminds me not to think my experience at my backwater school was the norm. And I think she has been right this far thankfully.

    Anyway, thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

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      I’m really sorry you went through that and really happy you’ve found success!

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    This one is a little different. On the first week of some college introductory economics class, the teacher was basically just reading from the textbook we all had, some historical figure who was a member of the “Council Of Seven” or something like that, when a student raised her hand - “Ma’am, what was the Council Of Seven?” - the teacher paused, and said - “Can you bring it tomorrow, as assignment?” - and actually giggled. This was in the 90s, pre-internet, looking up something like that was not a trivial task.

    The teacher might have thought she was being cute and/or deflected her own shortcomings, but the actual effect was that we immediately lost all respect and trust for her, no one ever raised a hand again in her class, we all immediately went into rote robot mode for the rest of the semester, disengaged on a gut level.

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    We had a teacher that said phones could give you cancer due to radiation and the classic 5G causes X conspiracy theories. Certainly wasn’t the worst teacher imo though.

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    My middle school computer teacher once said that unwanted email was called “flame”. I had never heard that term before or since used in the context of email.

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      My guess is they got confused with the concept of “flame wars” and “flaming” from forums. It doesn’t quite match their definition of “unwanted” messages exactly, but it’s not entirely far off either.

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        Subconscious self-loathing as a result of trying to memory hole something evil I did when very young.

        Also a desperate reliance on others’ praise and approval due to emotional abuse from my mother.

        A warped model of accomplishment resulting from all the praise I got for easily mastering concepts, coupled with vicious gaslighting and moral attacks I suffered whenever I strove for something difficult.

        And many other things which I’m just starting to uncover.

        I kind of feel like a programmer sleuthing out bugs in a product, but while I spend time sleuthing out the cause of my product not working, the trade show is half over.