He’s just going to get people killed. But that’s ok he doesn’t give a shit anyways, so it’s moot. What are a few thousand dead peasants when we could make big stock number go up?
Is he including Private Property among these discarded regulations?
Side note, Im still not buying this “Worlds richest man” Label.
I believe that title still belongs to Vladimir Putin. his wealth is not published though. He Robbed a vast nation blind to the point that he is a living god in Russia.
He mostly lives off debt with tesla being the collateral. Of tesla shares tank hes going to get margin called so to speak
I’ve been reading for 20+ years that the real richest in the world are oil barons in the middle east. I believe a few people are projected to have up to a trillion dollars in assets/wealth etc, but they aren’t celebs or post about it via publicly traded organisations etc.
Who knows though
I mean the House of Saud is worth over a trillion dollars I believe.
Putin could also easily have over a trillion dollars in assets, but they’d obviously be hidden. Does he? We’ll never know.
If that’s how Putin got rich, Elon is soon to catch up
Putin has Musk and Trump by the balls, for sure.
I think its less of a master giving orders to a dog dynamic, and More of a “I’ll have mine, you have yours” dynamic.
I still dont know if they are fucking crazy enough to try it. but this is whats in the back of my mind with this aggressive and jingoistic rhetoric against Canada, the EU, and Ukraine.
America may have stepped down from the stage of the Free world, and the Free world may very well be finished. but whats left of it still has nuclear weapons.
Between this and Ulbrict’s pardon, it seems the libertarians may be happy with their choice.
It’s all going according to plan…we are so fucked
“Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once. Of all the wonders that I yet have heard. It seems to me most strange that men should fear; Seeing that death, a necessary end, Will come when it will come.”
Julius Caesar, ACT II Scene II by William Shakespeare
All this bullshit from someone that never even took a US civics class. And likely has little to no idea of US history.
He learned enough. Accrue enough money, and you can do whatever the fuck you want.
Shhh the poores may figure it out!
Deport Elon.
Someone with the means and knowledge should start broadcasting Rickrolls across FAA and maritime frequencies.
Why americans even pay taxes?
For the military and giving handouts to billionaires.
Remember that we’re not allowed to call for violence, but it’s okay when Elon does things like this, because allowing industry to poison whole towns isn’t violence, it’s just capitalism.
Sharing the names of Musk’s helpers? Not okay.
Letting nuclear plants operate in a way that risks big swaths of the country uninhabitable? Totally cool.
This horrible for sure, but it’s worth noting they just made it so there are no on-paper repercussions for industry poisoning people. Poor people in rural areas have been getting poisoned (and/or driven from their homes) all along. Major media and unfortunately even EPA officials (as we saw for East Palestine) seem to just ignore or bury it most of the time, similar to the treatment environmental activists have reported when there’s an oil spill/leak and media don’t want to touch it. Here’s the latest example I’ve heard about recently. (I’m not specifically trying to follow this stuff incidentally, but I’m always interested in who corporate media tend to ignore or treat unfairly.)
Do you want Corporate Wars? Because this is how you get Corporate Wars.
Good luck, chooms.
He thinks we’re probably living in a simulation so logically killing people wouldn’t be morally wrong to him.
Decades upon decades of progress are going to be gone by the end of this.
We’ll spend the rest of our lives living in a system slowly being rebuilt, if we even get that lucky.
There goes our futures. And we voted for it.
Truly a shit nation full of shit people.
Don’t worry. WW3 will be the world against the US within the next decade.
Is a decade ten months now?
Feels that way
The wounds are too deep for rebuilding, imo. Even if we do get the chance, there’s just not enough Band-Aids, political will, and time in four years for the democrats to repair it. We’re facing the complete implosion of our federal government and its legitimacy along with it.
The worst part is that there’s not enough of an organized opposition to stop it, or even really slow it down. Neither major political party acts in favor of the people; major news outlets and social networking tools are owned by billionaires; a sizeable chunk of the country is perfectly OK with getting ratfucked so long as José next door gets it worse. We aren’t facing the implosion of the USA into a TechnoFascist Hellscape, we’re LIVING IT.
Then be the political organization. Call your elected official. Meet with your local advocacy group or non profit. They are organizing you just have to find them.
Yes, but the libruls made them do this, because woke/dei/crt and the trans. The amount of actual TDS (transphobic derangement syndrome) out there is something to behold.
The crazies are obsessed with trans and other bullshit that has no impact on their lives (b-roll of migrant caravans, poor people living high on the hog on steak and lobster, etc) that they are completely willing to end democracy over it. Not even fucking kidding. It’s one thing when you see the elites saying democracy is over, it needs to be shunted aside so they can rule, it’s quite another when they have convinced a lot of stupid peasants to say the same kind of shit. As if the peasants’ lives won’t be remarkably worse under what the elites have planned…
The future is a foreign land.
B-bu-but grandstanding uncommitted Jill Steiners told me not to worry and they’re all the same though!!?
Well, keep in mind that Biden was indecisive about Gaza…
Biden was the right vote over Trump, even on the issue of Gaza. However, it’s fucked up to minimize Biden’s culpability in the Gaza genocide this way. He wasn’t indecisive, he was complicit and was actively involved in helping Israel lie and obfuscate. Maybe we as a country deserve Trump, or maybe we don’t, but Biden and Harris did not deserve to win.
What the fuck is “deserve”?
Representative democracy is the system where people get the government that they deserve.
I don’t agree with the last statement.
There’s “continue with previously agreed weapons shipments to Israel” and there’s “let’s make Gaza a parking lot, invade Greenland, and ship these brown people to Guantanamo, citizens or not”.
Biden/Harris were not perfect, but they were the proverbial one-eyed person… vs a blind donkey.
Context is important to discern meaning. Biden, the person, deserves nothing better than a jail cell. Harris too, on some level, though she’s not as directly complicit. I voted for Harris anyways, because it was worth accepting that grave injustice to keep Trump out of power.
It was worth accepting that grave injustice to prevent and even bigger injustice.
We warned against Trump not because we dislike the guy, or his hair or his ties, we warned people that Trump would be even worse than whatever they/you disliked about the Biden admin.
It took him weeks to propose deporting 2M people from their own homeland and building a Trump hotel on the beachfront property left behind.
Are you just reading every other sentence or something? I voted for Harris. I didn’t need you to tell me to vote for Harris. I’d rather see Harris in prison than the Whitehouse, but I’d rather see Harris in the Whitehouse than Trump.
But, if we want to talk about warnings, I warned people like you that preaching at voters was more likely to make them stay home than vote for your candidate. Pointing out why Harris was better than Trump on Gaza was good, but the constant preaching and harassing attitude could easily have lost Harris the election. The fact that it didn’t end with the election is insane. It shows that your motivations were to virtue signal instead of helping Harris win.
Don’t forget that Trump is also talking about shifting control of Gaza to the US for some godforsaken reason (it’s beachfront property and his real estate mogul friends will make tons of cash building resorts on mass graves and skeletons).
Dude literally parroted the IDF and shut down any actual war crimes investigation. He was very decisive, in the wrong way.
He bears culpability for Trump winning for two reasons. Because it’s idiotic to expect the key Arab American demographic in Michigan, a key battleground state, to vote for a pro Gaza Genocide party. And because he didn’t know when to get out of the way. He tried to hold on for so long the Democrats couldn’t run a primary or actual campaign.
Biden’s legacy is death and Trump’s return.
No no no, the culpability is 100% with the American people. They had two options: the dude who agrees with everything the IDF says and does and the dude that goes far beyond the Israeli far right wildest dreams. There was no other option. It was a choice between a bad sandwich and a pile of shit and people focused on how the sandwich age and lack of caviar. Enjoy the shit! Maybe you can have some more at Trump Gaza Resort.
Lmao blame the people… Yup. That’s a winning strategy every time.
Blame the people for the candidate the people elected? After half the world warned about him for 8 years? How could I!
That might hold water if the Democrats hadn’t made the same warnings about every Republican since Reagan.
Imagine us growing up at the peak of civilization (1999, per the Matrix) and not knowing it.
Now we’re going back to the 1800s with robber barons and 20 hour/7day workweeks.
With RFK Jr pitching in, you’re going back hundreds of years.
Most of them are just caught in the gears of history. It’s not as if voting was ever mandatory or generally made available to the working class.
But yes, a nation asleep at the wheel for the most part. It’s such a pity.
So US citizens should be able to import Chinese Teslas clones for half the price, right ?
Does this mean I csn buy a Hilux?
Can you not buy a Hilux in the US as it stands?
Nope. Chicken Tax.
We get the Tacoma because pickups have to be huge here to make manufacturing them in Mexico worthwhile or something.
Bigger trucks are allowed to be less fuel-efficient
Also yes. Which is so unbelievably stupid.
No. He’s saying THEY get to ignore all regulations. Not you.
So I visited Bangladesh one time, and learned they have insanely high rates of cancer there. Why? Well it turns out that (among other reasons) the farmers had been injecting formaldehyde into their vegetables because it made them last longer on the shelves, and therefore sold better.
This is what you get with no regulations. A sick and dying population.
They will just call it Freedom Juice™ and write on the packaging that it makes the food taste more better.
I spent a decade living around Africa, and this kind of thinking is common. DDT was what everyone put on the tomatoes because pests mean loss of food. Who wants that?
Lack of relations is only about living in short-term survival thinking 24/7. Long term effects mean nothing.
DDT isn’t going to cause health problems for the people in Africa. It will cause problems for some birds near the top of the food chain however.
It’s just the easiest example to use. I have maybe dozens more examples that require more storytelling and setup.
Ever had someone try to sell you a car with visible drywall screws holding the bumper on, like you were the dick for pointing them out?
DDT won’t fuck you up if you die in your 20s from unrelated causes
Fair point, on the other hand, have you considered line must go up?
Seriously. It’s like no one realizes the literal most important thing in all of the world.
Line go up.
Fuck your family, fuck your health, fuck your safety, fuck yo couch, fuck the environment, LINE GO UP!
C.R.E.A.M.
… Fml
Yeah I remember wiping my feet on his couch
Rick James from Charlie Murphy’s True Hollywood Stories?
R.I.P. Charlie Murphy
I’m kind of relieved we’re extincting ourselves before we become an interstellar plague of misery, with children being born into inescapable, perpetual oxygen debt to the local corporate leadership on Mars and Titan colonies.
We’d make the Ferengi look like altruists. We were a mistake of evolution.
It’s the current western dominionist mindset that’s the mistake. Don’t mistake that for all of humanity (even if it currently makes up 90% of it).
As opposed to…who exactly? That one tribe in the sentinel Islands that hasn’t been contacted by modern civilization yet?
Sure. Also many other cultures who have been contacted and haven’t been completely destroyed.
But the point is not that we should copy some tiny tribe’s way of life, the point is that western dominionism is not the only way that humans are capable of organising their societies. There are likely many other ways that have never been tried yet that are much better than what we have now.
So… would you ignore all of recorded history, and most of anthropological records that dictate humanity has always been in a race to find new and exciting ways to kill each other?
In every civilization there comes a time where the interests of the elite grilled too far apart from the interests of the common people. Some kind of correction becomes inevitable. The way this correction plays out and who wins is another matter. But it looks like in the coming decades, maybe centuries, a new to type of economic model gets worked out, based on sustainability first, or very soon new tech is survived that allowed further line going up without destroying the planet. But living through a pivot in history is always a stressful affair.
What? And sacrifice my bonus?
Think of the money to be made from selling medical care for contaminated food.
“regulations are written in blood” is a quote for a reason
Go read about how horribly adulterated food was in Europe and the US in the 1800s and before. They’d add sawdust to flour, chalk, toxic metals, rotten meat was sold regularly, etc. Patent medicines were essentially drug trafficking or just scams. Soldiers in the Spanish-American war were supplied with canned meat from the US Civil War. I saw an old film from the time the Pure Food and Drug act was passed showing a can of meat being opened and it literally shot out from the gasses inside.
Well, the Libertarians and Republicans had their heads poisoned with total rot like Ayn Rand’s horrible sci-fi, and then spent the past several decades screaming about how derrp, we don’t need no regulations!
Now I guess we all get to find out along with these dolts.
Not to mention the US falling 110% into the cult of individualism. Individualism is fine if it is balanced with the needs of society as a whole. You can’t even get people to chip into schools and roads, shared resources, anymore.
Do you have examples of this stuff happening in continental European countries? I’d love to jump down that rabbit hole.
In the past I’ve read descriptions of systematic bad practices in the industrialized Uk, but I can’t recall reading about similar things happening in other western European countries. Nothing systematic anyhow. I’d image that the french would have had a(nother) revolution if anyone had tried that stuff with their food.
Many thanks for the links, was interesting.
Just by the existence of food standards laws, we know that there must have been food standards problems. Stuff like mayonnaise composition being put into law, must mean that there had been a mayonnaise quality problem or worries at a certain point in time, I just can’t find any specific info on when or what. Those scandals were probably recorded just as well in the news papers of my small country, but if no one writes a new article or paper about the scandal 50+ years after it happened, then that info won’t turn up in an internet search query.
Funny thing with that book it was intended to reveal the horrible working conditions in the industry but instead the public latched onto it as revealing how foul and adulterated food had become.
Exactly
From my point of view from the other side of the Atlantic, you guys in the US don’t have enough regulation as it is. There’s only one class of people that benefit from removal of the regulations you do have, and that’s the top 1%. It’s just going to allow them to do all of the following to make more money, at everyone else’s expense.
1: Treat their employees worse than they already do, AND put them into dangerous situations legally. 2: Cut corners to save money at the expense of safety. Think airlines, airliner manufacturers, car makers, construction. The list here could be endless. 3: Well, finance/banking regulations. That will be a field day for the finance sector I’m sure.
I mean the list is potentially endless. But the three points above will keep you busy for long enough I reckon.
No, I don’t really feel safe even this far away. We’re not immune to all of this anywhere in the world.
Your list has most of the highlights, but you’re missing 2 really important one: 1. food safety. I guess Americans don’t care what is being sprayed on their vegetables or what diseases their meat might have. And 2. environmental. Burning rivers, even more wildfires, smog in all your cities, toxic waste in your lakes, etc. Don’t think they won’t start polluting like crazy if they can.
All regulations means ALL regulations; even the ones most people would think are so common sense they don’t expect them to go away. They will. If it makes more money, they’ll get rid of any and all regulations.
Number 3 is interesting for me… The finance sector is pretty aware of the need to control stupid risk taking, and the don’t want another GFC, so I guess they’d (broadly) want to keep some of the regulation around that. What else is there? General bad acting and things like excessive fees? That also seems to be a risk driver, in the long term, as it leads to e.g. increased loan defaults… Where do you think the key problems would be?
What makes you think big finance likes to keep regulation? Someone’s loss is another one’s profit. Some people become very very rich from financial crises.
Because market crashes are not good for anyone in the sector… Hence I think the regulations brought in via the FSB in response to the GFC were broadly accepted (though probably with varying degrees of willingness).
And? A lot of the big banking execs, and the rest of the billionaire class in general, seem to largely understand that we’re at the theoretical limit of “line goes up”. They’re happy to squeeze the last bit of juice out of the lemon before they retire to some bunker in New Zealand or whatever.
Long term thinking is dead in much of the corporate world. The focus isn’t on next year, it’s on next quarter if not next week. A market crash would be easily predictable for a lot of financial firms now - they know what to spot, and the housing crash in 08 showed them that they can jump out pretty scot-free no matter what.
Yeah I stopped at three when I realised I could be there all day when it comes to regulations that private companies need to adhere to. But I would agree those should have been on my abridged list too.
Ha, oh I get it. You are exactly right, the list is pretty much endless!
