UN Relief Chief Martin Griffiths told a representative from Sky News on Wednesday that he did not consider Hamas to be a terrorist group.
Asked about the feasibility of Israel’s military goal to eliminate Hamas and disallow the terrorist group from having any governing say in Gaza, Griffiths responded “Hamas is not a terrorist group for us, as you know, it is a political movement. But, I think it is very very difficult to dislodge these groups without a negotiated solution; which includes their aspirations.
“I cannot think of an example offhand of a place where a victory through warfare has succeeded against a well-entrenched group, terrorist or otherwise.”
Probably not the best thing to say.
Palestinians aren’t terrorists. Hamas? Terrorists. Funded by Iran no less. And that’s why Netanyahu made sure they got control of Gaza. So he could have an excuse to wipe out the people there.
Then israel would be put on the Nazi list funded by America.
Hamas is a resistance group just like the ANC in south Africa. Though Hamas has a significantly lower civilian casualty rate than the ANC.
Calling them terrorists is like calling Nelson Mandela a terrorist.
If israel wants peace they will need to negotiate with Hamas for a solution. And pretending that’s impossible is the exact problem. And exactly what israel wants you to say.
Hamas killed kids at a music festival. They’re terrorists.
They’re also freedom fighters, the two aren’t mutually exclusive.
What are kids doing at drug rave? First time I hear of children being killed at the rave.
1 infant got killed on Oct 7.
8 kids under 10.
36 kids total.
And
373 IDF soldiers.
Israel kills twice as many children each day as Hamas did in total on Oct7.
Very common to refer to young adults as kids. To me, anyone under 25 is a kid. Pretending that you don’t understand that just makes it obvious that you’re not arguing in good faith.
The IDF is sending teenagers into Gaza. At least one 19 year old IDF terrorist has been killed in Gaza.
Your logic would imply israel is using child soldiers.
If you’re old enough to commit genocide you’re an adult.
You also know damn well that “child soldier” is a term with specific implications so now it’s confirmed that you’re twisting words instead of addressing the actual content.
I’m using your own words to show you the hypocrisy of how you selectively apply standards.
If you say that’s twisting words then you are the one who’s doing the twisting.
Show me where I said child soldier, you bald faced liar.
Israel’s actions have nothing to do with my assessment of Hamas as a terrorist organization.
I don’t remember saying “children”. Let’s check…nope, I used the word kids. They killed “kids” at a “music festival”. What you do at parties isn’t my business.
They claimed I said something I didn’t say too.
Do explain the word “fundamentalist” for Hamas if you know your linguistics so well.
Seriously, do you read anyone’s comments or do you just reply to people at random and just say random shit?
You used the word fundamentalist in your comment to describe Hamas. Explain the word and how it applies to Hamas as you clearly have no idea what Hamas even is.
No those words mean exactly the same. Kids is short for children.
So you have a source for children being killed there?
Interesting how it is a music festival with children now instead of a drug rave.
Where you from, Linkerbaan? Children is plural for child. A child is below the age of puberty. A kid is a young person. Get your terminology straight.
Also, your behavior at parties and festivals is none of my business. I don’t care what you do as long as it doesn’t harm others.
So aside from your amazing jargon, I’ll ask you the same question in your words:
Where is the evidence of the children you claimed were killed at the music festival?
You don’t ever seem to answer the actual question. Deflect dodge deflect dodge.
Listen to you, reflecting upon dodges and deflections. If you can’t understand the difference between kids and children, there’s nothing more I can say.
I don’t remember the ANC being funded by a fundamentalist theocratic regime.
Also, you think I support Israel when I literally said they found an excuse to wipe out the people of Gaza?
Or did you just not read my post very carefully?
Hamas is very moderate compared to groups like ISIS or israel.
There’s Christians living in Gaza being killed by israel not Hamas
Is it a contest?
No this is you not being informed and consuming too much propaganda.
Saying Hamas needs to disappear is equally as unproductive as saying israel needs to disappear.
And israel is by far the worse of these two groups.
When did I say Hamas needs to disappear or that Israel needs to disappear? Please quote me.
You said it was an excuse to wipe out Gaza in your first comment.
But factually It is not an excuse. Because negotiations with them are very possible. Hamas has very high credibilty on their promises (which people here don’t like to hear)
In other words, I never said that Hamas needs to disappear.
You think Gaza = Hamas?
Because it doesn’t.
What I said was that Netanyahu wants to wipe out Gaza (and The West Bank.) Hamas was how he found an excuse to do it. I mean this isn’t a secret. Even some Israelis admit it.
So maybe don’t accuse me of supporting Israel when you imply that everyone in Gaza is Hamas.
A resistance group can still be terrorists. Terrorists are just people who commit acts of terrorism to accomplish a goal. Sometimes a group may commit them purely as a bargaining chip - “Stop attacking us and our people, or we’ll commit more terroristic acts in response”
It’s just embedded in public preception that terrorists won’t ever stop doing it until they are stopped due to terrorists being an easy group to make villains in media as terroristic actions are horrific by design
Partially but there are two legal problems,
Israel is an Occupier and has no protection under International Law so cannot be protected by laws on terrorism.
UNGA Resolution 37/43 affirmed the legitimacy of the struggle for independence, territorial integrity, national unity, and liberation from foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle. This resolution openly recognized the right of occupied people to use force against foreign illegal occupation.
The most recent spark was an attack directed at civilians on what not be considered occupied territory. Armed struggle may be understandable, but this context is out of line.
It’s really rough because they have done something which must be condemned, but after many years of nothing working to improve their lot in other ways. Then Israel retaliated in a way that must almost be condemned.
ESH and it is just so depressing…
No it was a very targeted attack against military bases.
This is Jeremy Scahill, Co-founder and writer fod the intercept explaining what actually happened on Oct 7 in a video
https://youtu.be/BUtnJuzC_gc?t=2m4s