They think all of the gov’ment was corrupt and bad, so they’re cheering for the destruction of all gov’ment.
Some migrants got harassed, they can pretend they set our allies “straight”, dei got "dismantled, funding cut to orgs they don’t like, pardons for j6 fed collaborators, security removed from political enemies…
As what Trump actually did for them as voting block, they are selfless, they need nothing as long as libs destroyed by daddy for the loolz
Causing a complete collapse of society to own the libs.
“That’ll show em!” They said, proudly looked at the divet in their face where their nose used to be.
The complete collapse of society, but not to own the libs. It’s to set up a new political system controlled by billionaires as techno feudal lords:
https://piped.wireway.ch/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no%3Fsi%3Dfev-OzgZmzcUfsPW&t=1
They’re not even trying to hide it:
https://thenetworkstate.com/the-network-state-in-one-sentence
This is actually what many of them want: no government at all telling them what to do, but they’re safe because they got guns! And that’s where the thought process ends.
They get to say the n word with confidence, in certain situations, far from large groups of POC’s, at their dive bars… surrounded by their christo fascist friends… where was I going with this?
They don’t all agree on anything. Logic and reason aren’t part of the requirements for MAGA.
Their actually frowned upon. They love the uneducated.
Please tell me your choice of “Their” was a joke…
Autocorrect IDs absolutely useless lately.
That’s bit a joke. Nether is that. It’s that bad.
Hey, let them be loved by MAGA if they want to, it’s not my kink, but no kink-shaming
It hurts people who aren’t in their arbitrary in-group, and they believe that is good. They believe any affliction to them by way of those harming the out-group is a necessary sacrifice to cleanse society of the evil sin of not being in their arbitrary in-group.
Reactionary ideology is all about protecting privilege by demonizing marginalized people. They believe in zero-sum rights and privileges: in their view, expansion of rights for another group inherently means a loss of rights for them.
Not a loss of rights, a loss of advantages. They want to keep them.
Bingo. Conservatives believe that if someone outside their group is given anything, they lost that thing.
It’s stupid simple, zero-sum game theory is the only thing they believe in.
Lemmy: “It’s RACISM!”
No, it’s far simpler than that.
It’s also racism.
Owning the libs, getting to say r*tard, and grabbing them by the pussy
“draining the swamp, eliminating the deep state”
What to do when they become the deep state? Will they purge themselves?
Yeah I agree, it’s this kinda propaganda that they pump out there, and a bunch if other shit we’ve all seen. Lies. They lie, and like the asshats that owned the news papers when that’s what people read, they own the social media now.
Nothing new under the sun.
The cruelty is the point.
Aren’t you cute? Did you come up with that all on your own? Or are you simply, and mindlessly, repeating an easy little slogan? Any idea of the origin of that, context, anything at all? No?
I didn’t leave reddit to come here and see children repeat slogans for upvotes.
What’s your problem?
How could we forget? We’re all here to please you because you ditched Reddit. Congrats on that by the way, see ya around! 👋
What a shitty way to respond to an innocuous comment.
If you’re hard-right, might as well join Truth Social
Validation for their feelings and a return to a mythologized past. Try having a reasoned political discussion with someone like this:
Well back in my day things were just better. America was the best and we didn’t have to apologize for that. And the blacks and mexicans and what not didn’t complain so damn much because folks were wired different back then and there wasn’t nothin to complain about. Chuck Berry. You know Chuck Berry? Greatest rock and roller of all time and he was colored. Didn’t nobody have anything to say about it, he was just damned good at guitar. Now the kids - black kids - listen to all sorts of damnable noise and them from the cities in gangs shooting each other up and corrupting good old white kids in the small towns and suburbs getting them into drugs. And they whine and complain about racism and get the white college kids to whine and complain too, but we had a black president and look how that turned out. Granted he was a muslim and not even a citizen, but try tellin them that. I mean hell look at what Hillary did to all them folks at Benghazi - just let them muslims kill all of em , probably wouldn’t have been politically correct to fight back. And those democrat cities just keep letting illegals stay because they know they’ll vote democrat - they don’t care how many of them are raping and murdering women and kids long as they get their votes. Not even just the mexicans anymore, you got those communists gangs from venezuela taking over whole apartment complexes and the defunded police cann’t do anything about it. You know something was wrong with that Biden election - not just illegals voting but I saw on Fox that they were sending out dozens of mail-in ballots to blacks and college kids and what have you. Maybe Elon’s going to fix it now since he knows all about those voting machines. Liberals voting for dead people too, but that’s been on the news since Bush - I don’t know why nobody does anything about that. And you know what? We knew which bathroom tonuse too - we figured out a genius method. I’ll tell you: drop your drawers and look down. Then you’ll know. And you’ll know if you should be on a mens or womens track team, too. It’s probably because all the kids have autism from the vaccines these days - now I guess they’re mutants because of that COVID mRNA vaccine too - but not me. No sir. I’ll stick with the DNA god gave me. That’s probably why all the boys think they’re girls now. Or cats and try to piss in litterboxes at school. People knew who and what they were once. They knew their place, worked hard, and didn’t complain. Now if we can just get Trump in for a few more terms then he’ll set everything straight and get rid of all those regulations so.I can afford eggs again.
These folks are genuinely operating on an entirely separate set of facts and assumptions to us. They have decades of counterfactual propagandized conspiracy theories, which are too numerous and ingrained to easily disabuse them of.
Reads like satire.
I couldn’t even finish the paraphrased quote. I want to slap this nonexistant being who never actually said those things, because they never existed…but in a way they exist everywhere. Like I just screamed, knowing I can’t reply to you, and put some facts in place, because you’re not actually saying those things. You’re showcasing the spirit of someone who does say those things. And I get it. I do.
I just also want to scream into a pillow.
It’s exhausting. And trying to convince someone like that of anything is basically impossible. I have had painstaking, well-reasoned and well-sourced political discussions with many people like that. Funny thing is, I can almost always get the to agree to progressive or socialist policy goals. But, there are all these ideological land mines and, if you trip one, then they fall back into their defensive web of miscellaneous falsehoods and conspiracies.
That’s the crazy thing. If you explain leftist policies to them they will generally say that sounds good. But once they hear a trigger word like socialist or even Democrat they’re out.
It seems to me Trumps strategy is always to promise different, often contradictory, things to different people. Anti elite is the red thread.
By tearing the entire country down, I guess a lot of his base feels he is successfully fucking up the elites. They like him because his different and promises real change, and I guess that’s what they are getting.
From the replies, it seems that we’re all having a hard time pinning it down exactly.
Our explanations for the behavior of outsiders say more about our beliefs than theirs.
Even explanations that feel correct to us are almost certainly wrong in important ways.
There’s plenty of scholarship on the various reasons people support fascism, that’s probably your best chance for a full answer.
All they have to agree on is that they are getting something they want, that “something” can be different from person to person.
They’re a cult, everyone within the cult implicitly agrees on the reality that matches what the leader(s) say regardless of what the leader does. There are many pipelines into the cult, gamers/incels, being an outcast for some reason, the general shitty state of things, etc they all lead to a desire for things to be better in some way. The leader promises this and everyone in the cult agrees that following the leader will fix these things somehow. If the leader does something contrary it is justified simply by saying that you as not the leader don’t understand. There’s 5d chess being played and while you’re awesome and good with 4d chess because you’re in the cult only the leader and some of the higher ups know the 5d strategy. Don’t worry and trust the leader. Drink the Flavor aid, your kids and friends already did.
