• Agrivar@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Fuck Israel and every loyal Israeli. Fuck them all with a barbed-wire-wrapped telephone pole. Repeatedly.

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    9 months ago

    An Israeli rap duo have **reportedly **called for the deaths of Dua Lipa, Bella Hadid and Mia Khalifa in a song which has shot to the top of charts in Israel.

    hum

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    Wait isn’t this song from months ago? But this is the first time I’m seeing it pointed out that it calls for killing these three women

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    “They made us out to be a bunch of Jewish fascists who want to kill Arabs,” he said in an interview with Ynet. “We’re representing the country, and this song raises morale

    Just once I’d like journalists to point out nonsense non-sequitur. Fascism is exactly believe in superiority of ones national or racial identity and the inferiority of others. Then they immediately position themselves as victims again.

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      Friendly reminder to all that one of the core principles in being Jewish is a belief that you are the chosen children of G-d. Many take that for the bullshit that it is but rest assured there are more Jews than you would care to admit that believe it.

      Source - my ex is Jewish and I have 3 kids that are the chosen children of G-d and I am not. Should we all die I don’t get to be buried in a Jewish cemetery with them. That’s how stupid it is.

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        With fascism it’s always some “essential” identity which makes you special and it’s a mythological one, but it also requires a belief in the moral correctness of inequality. I think most modern Jews outside Israel would not believe this. They might be proud of their identity but not cross that threshold.

        The actual fascism must be fostered when the conditions are right. Material conditions need to deteriorate, some persistent real or imaginary fear being pushed and then enough mainstream media (incl. social media) has to push it.

        I think most westerners completely missed how bad it is in Israel. Part of it is probably because they have their own language so their messaging only gets translated in “friendly” terms.

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        Friendly reminder that this is person is an idiot and this is a deeply incorrect explanation of the Jewish religious understanding of jews’ relationship to God. In talmudic tradition, it is more or less correct to say that jews are understood to be in a contractual relationship with God.

        I suspect this person has a bad relationship with their ex, and has decided to weave a cloak of straws to justify their shitty relationship and the community and familial support their ex receives to their personal disadvantage. It’s a weirdly common vector of effectively unintentional antisemitism. That, or they might just be dumb.

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          Never claimed I wasn’t an idiot. My understanding is sound. I spent 20 years in a relationship with her and have 3 beautiful children and am still amicable and friends with her family. They are not religious obviously as I am a non-jew. As with any religion the more you get into the religion the crazier it gets. Now obviously there’s a lot of nuance but as an idiot I’m also explaining for idiots. Very simply put Jewish people are taught a belief that they are “special” in the eyes of G-d. More than Christians. More than Muslims. Yes you can argue other religions do the same thing but I would argue it’s not as codified.

          Sure I’m antisemitic. I have a weird way of showing it being the one to force my kids to still do all the traditional stuff and strongly encouraging they visit Israel when they are old enough.

          Methinks reading so much out of a single comment on Lemmy perhaps you are the idiot.

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        The fact that you either post this repeatedly or are reposting something i have seen multiple times makes me nervous about what your true intent is.

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          Yea I’m “anti-Israel” by many metrics but this is just a misleading and seemingly propagandic take… Judaism comes in many different forms and can range from extremist, highly conservative-orthodox beliefs which believes itself to be the superior race and all the others go to some burning hell (as seems to be described in this post which represents a minority of jews in the US at least), to any of the apolitical beliefs that lack any sort of hell-equivalent or even afterlife at all in some cases, where the entire point of the religion basically boils down to “be a good person to everyone around you”. Judaism is an extremely diverse religion, hell you could even make an argument about Christianity and Islam just being highly derived forms of extremist Judaism (since Christianity originated as an offshoot of fringe jewish beliefs and Islam developed most of its unoriginal beliefs from Judaism and Christianity). Very few Jews actually have extremist/Christian-like beliefs about their religion (I don’t know about in Israel though, they very well could)

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        They straight up annihilated almost every last Christian from Gaza and it didn’t stir but a mild condemnation from the Anglican church. I doubt they’d complain if Israel barred christian pilgrims from Jerusalem tomorrow

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          To be fair, the pope condemned Israel’s actions in Gaza as well. Fundamentalist evangelical Christian Zionists have more financial and media power than others though, I imagine, and many others are just plain silent.

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              If they were just verbally protesting their presence and not committing assaulting I’d understand as there are legit reasons for Jewish people not to like Christian Zionism… but the Israeli state finds them politically convenient I guess, so of course they let it fly. 🙄

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      Governments and their people rarely agree. Those that do agree are a vocal minority that’s always amplified. While I don’t believe Israel should exist, a county isn’t it’s government and its dominant group.

      There are Israelis risking prison and possibly their lives trying to stop what their government is doing.

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          Not directly, but they have an indirect effect. The more one aligns with the state, especially in a fascist state like Israel, the less likely they are to experience violence. The less trauma they have. The more access they have to good and stable jobs.

          So oppositional groups tend to be more fragmented (so more subcultures) and have less money. So, no, not directly but there’s definitely an indirect relationship.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    An Israeli rap duo have called for the deaths of Dua Lipa, Bella Hadid and Mia Khalifa in a song which has shot to the top of charts in Israel.

    The drill song, which artists Ness and Stilla said they recorded to be a “war anthem”, has split the country due to its support for military action in the Gaza strip following the 7 October Hamas attacks.

    “Harbu Darbu”, meaning “raining hell on one’s opponent”, in Hebrew slang is originally derived from the Arabic words for “mayhem” and “war strike”.

    With a middle finger up, the rappers call for the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) to attack singer Dua Lipa, supermodel Bella Hadid and former adult content creator Mia Khalifa.

    The song’s lyrics also include Iran’s Hassan Nasrallah, Mohammed Deif who is head of Hamas’s al-Qassam brigades, as well as what appears to be a racialised reference to Palestinians and Arabic names in “Abu Baklawa” referring to the middle eastern dessert.

    The Independent has reached out to representatives for Ness and Stilla, Mia Khalifa, Bella Hadid and Dua Lipa.


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