Not everyone thinks this, but I know an extreme right-winger who thinks this. He is also a conspiracy theorist who thinks non-white people are out to get white people so, yeah, odd.

Not every immigrant is illegal or bad. I know a girl who didn’t speak English for 3 years when her family legally immigrated, so of course she’s been told this.

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    So people are programmed to be biased towards their own self interest, it’s not as malicious as it sounds, it’s unfortunately human nature.

    So naturally they would think that the new world conquest was justified for whatever reason (maybe cause there was no flag?).

    And conversely, naturally they would think of new people coming here as less justified, after all, we live in a modern world with borders now.

    What I’ve learned from politics in the last few years, especially during the pandemic, is to never trust someone’s opinion when there is conflict of interest.

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    “Shouldn’t that logic apply to…”

    One must remember that people aren’t logical. They’re hypocritical and willfully ignorant.

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    American fascism doesn’t care what’s true or what’s right. It cares only to kill and enslave people who are “undesirable”

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      1. Not all US cirizens feel this way. Convict47 won by 1.5%, with 19 million less voters Thant the previous time. Voter suppression won this election.
      2. And for the ones that feel this way, you’ve got it absolutely right, plain old ignorant racism.
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    someone called my Ukrainian coworker a wetback.

    i just… want you to think about that and what it says about how dumb bigots are

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      So… looking at the context and the intent, is it pure racism even if they didn’t come up from the south? It’s bigoted, I guess?

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      I feel both superior and stupid at the same time in this moment. I don’t know what a “wetback” is. Based on context I’m going to guess it’s some kind of racist remark that doesn’t apply to Ukrainains. But for the life of me, I can’t think of what it would even be saying.

      So I feel stupid for not knowing…but also like I’m probably the better person for NOT knowing.

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        Unfortunately I’m familiar with the term. It refers to Latin people immigrating without documentation by swimming across the Rio Grande river which forms part of the border between the U.S. and Mexico.

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          A thousand guesses, and I would have eventually landed on it being against Latinos (necause there’s only so many races). But I never would have correctly guessed the Rio Grande part.

          That’s some very very specific racism right there.

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            Biologically, there are no multiple human races. There is a single human species. Socially, there are an infinite number of races.

            The concept of race is foundational to racism, the belief that humans can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another.

            wiki

            The use of races to distinguish people socially is playing right into the racists’ playbook by forcing you to play on their turf, where reason is out of the window.

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    Because they’re stupid, bigoted cunts. I IT in construction (somehow still, whew thats another story) and I talk to these troglodytes on a daily basis. The minute one of these homunculus shambles in and has a minute to flap their lip skins racist ass, stupid ass shit flows out. Meanwhile, every gentleman that is of Mexican descent can at least hold their cool, or outright flipoff the trump cutout my boss has up in our office. Not saying they aren’t imperfect humans either, but for some fucken reason white dudes can’t help but drop the mask to other white dudes. All I gotta do is have one Trump trinket near me to work magic on anyone conversing with me. The trick is, a lot of the immigrant dudes didnt start flipping Trump off until he actually began this deportation shit. Even when he was saying he’d do it they were saying he’d fix stuff. Its a people thing man idk. Education in the western hemisphere is just utterly failing most. If you aren’t a knowledge seeker, if you dont have the tools to combat propaganda and falsehoods, and sometimes even if you do, this place will eat you.

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      Because they’re stupid, bigoted cunts.

      I feel like you could have said just this. Not saying the rest of your post is invalid in anyway. I’m just saying that first sentence sums it up completely.

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        You’re right, but the rest of his post is pure poetry. I wish I could be eloquent that way.

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    Short answer is “propaganda”. News agencies against immigration will pretty regularly swap between “illegal immigrants”, “immigrants”, and <insert current target race here> as if they’re practically interchangable to build whatever narrative they want, and also to slowly build an association between ‘people of <insert race>’, ‘being a drain on society’, and ‘being here illegally’ to get the average person to side with them.

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    Oligarchs are seizing control of the country. Wages have been declining for decades; there was a time when you could buy a house with just a few years’ salary. As the rich become richer and the poor become poorer, the middle class slowly sinks towards the poverty line. To shield themselves from public scrutiny, the oligarchs use propaganda to spread Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. They deploy their most charismatic and beautiful individuals to tell you that if it weren’t for all those foreigners, you’d have a stable job.

    Meanwhile, all manufacturing companies have been sold and moved overseas. Unskilled and uneducated labor is at an all-time low. Drug use is up, crime rates are soaring, and neighborhoods are falling into poverty. Is it time to protest, to start an uprising? But wait—straight from Fox News: all those immigrants who came over are criminals. It’s gang violence. Other countries are exiling their criminals and sending them to us. Our poor, uneducated, unwashed masses are eager to believe this, allowing the right to swoop in, carrying these people back home. They believe that finally, they’ll land that big job, get the big raise, the big truck, have nine kids, and live happily ever after.

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    The oligarch owned media/government/education system wants the working class fighting each other rather than going after the real parasites (the oligarchs). They use 24/7 cradle to grave propaganda to convince people that the threat comes from “others” instead of the bosses. Easier to get people to punch down.

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      24/7 cradle to grave propaganda

      A very astute observation… They get the plebs we we are younger and you parents are fucking bootlicker larping it too.

      Disgusting