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- technology@lemmy.ml
- technology@beehaw.org
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Decoupling America’s Artificial Intelligence Capabilities from China Act of 2025’’.
SEC. 3. PROHIBITIONS ON IMPORT AND EXPORT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE OR GENERATIVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TECHNOLOGY OR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY
(a) PROHIBITION ON IMPORTATION.—On and after the date that is 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the importation into the United States of artificial intelligence or generative artificial intelligence technology or intellectual property developed or produced in the People’s Republic of China is prohibited.
Currently, China has the best open source models in text, video and music generation.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2069436850145993
50 States, 50 Protests, 1day
Feb 5 @ your downtown.
I was playing this whole thing out in my head, and trying to justify the confidence of Trump and pals with such seemingly stupid moves. The only thing I can think of is that they believe that the money they will save (steal) from the government cuts, etc, will make up for the huge losses from the tariffs. And then they would have to believe that their internal AI development is at a point where they can overpower every other nation on earth, and so they don’t need those international relations anymore. I mean, technically every single Tesla in the world is a camera for Elon, and a huge percentage of internet traffic goes through US servers.
But then I think, even if they do have all of these advantages, China seems to be catching up pretty quickly, is allied with over 50% of the planet through BRICS, has protected itself from their technological expansion. This is not even including that most other countries in the world will probably want to distance themselves from the US if this keeps up.
Either I’m in denial, or it really is just Trump and Elon are being blinded by their overinflated egos.
There’s always the worst possible option: they’re true believers. They genuinely believe the rest of the world is freeloading on the US, and that (atlas) shrugging them off will make everyone else collapse.
So you can’t download them, you should run them directly on tencent cloud or something? Smart…
I don’t even like ai but this just makes me want to download Deepseek as much as I can
Yes, that will show them for sure
Josh Hawley is a complete waste.
These fucking clowns just refuse to learn about how technology works. Fucking morons.
The generation that can’t figure out their TV remote is attempting to legislate on cutting edge technology. Fucking series of tubes all over again. It never stopped though really.
The series of tubes is actually a better analogy than what this Bill imagines the internet to be.
This bill is likely sponsored by Sam Altman himself
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You don’t expect this law to count for the people at the top, do you?
so basically more cenaorship because china?
LOL. Next they start burning books?
start?
Continue
Deleting CDC data is effectively the same thing.
This country is so cooked.
Always has been.
bang.
What next? Outlaw chinese food?
A succulent Chinese meal!?
We’ll call it FREEDOM FOOD. Please, pass the FREEDOM beef chow fun, and the AMERICAN Fortune cookies, and BLUE EAGLE AR-15 green tea.
Pretty sure fortune cookies are American anyway? Pretty sure they aren’t chinese
bald eagle sheds a single tear 🦅 💧
It is making gen Z lazy, they start to “lay flat”
ABSOLUTELY NO COMPETITION ALLOWED.
So rather than build off their successes we’re just gonna put up a blinder and hope they don’t completely leave us in the dust?
You’re expecting coherent policy from the guy that shut the entire country down for a day, because he’s an idiot?
If I have seen further, it is by
standing on the shoulders of giantsblinding everyone else LOL
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
I’m not even in to this shit and I’m going to download it right now because fuck those assholes.
Can someone explain briefly what I need to download that might not be available if this comes to pass? Like I did some searching and I saw stuff about Ollama but it wasn’t completely clear if that would be affected by this.
https://ollama.com/library/deepseek-r1
Very simple with ollama
So if I download this and somehow there is no longer a way to access the model online this will still work? I’m just a bit confused because I read a couple things that made it seem like even though the model is running locally it still needs a connection for some reason, if that isn’t true I’m sorry for the dumb question.
On first run it downloads the model, then you just run it locally
So if I get a new computer in a few months it will no loner work. Maybe we can VPN into Sweden?
Jeeez, just copy the ollama’s directory (something like .ollama) from user’s dir to wherever. You can check and find the files inside. I find the published 14b really useful, it’s ten GB that think and reason in english.
I assume you know you can transfer files from one pc to a other?
Thank you, that answers my question exactly.
Technically this isn’t the case. These are Deepseek distilled with Qwen and Llama depending on the weight, so they are no longer Deepseek.
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world this is the official, extremely large, one. https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1
Well yes, it does specifically say so in the link. There’s also one with the full model in what I linked
Oh nice, when Ollama first had this up I don’t think the 671b model was there. I stand corrected on that!
Something about https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1 , or at least that’s the model that everyone’s been talking about recently. It looks like it’d be half a terabyte to clone the entire repo though, and I don’t know how to use it either …
Doesn’t matter. People in the US already have the model, so sharing it within the US wouldn’t be illegal, and the law would only apply to anything “imported” 180 days after the law is passed (if it’s passed at all).
Also, how “importing” is defined will matter for any future legal arguments, and I would imagine this law would eventually be struck down for being overbroad.
Ah, the supporters of the free market strike again. No competition allowed, Sam Altman and his American billionaire peers are entitled to all the money.
Oh well. The rest of the world can benefit from Chinese AI models.
Exhibit no. 47475 of their parasite behavior
That number is way too low.
Awesome, so on top of all the other crap, like a economy that is going off a cliff, the US wants to actually get further behind on AI, just so that assman van make a few extra dollars
PROHIBITIONS ON IMPORT AND EXPORT
They are just doing protectionism for Meta and OpenAI monopoly and shooting rest of the american economy in the foot by doing it. Anybody who isn’t openAI one of these tech giants will have to use less effective american gen-AIs, that they can’t self host for free for much less cost provided that they have servers. This Just to protect companies like openAI, that relied on the idea that people will have to come to them, so they can set the prize and still harvest their data and even insert all the right political narratives into the model, like what happened with chatgpt and palestine. All of this because few weeks ago good AI was supposed to super hard and scarce and now it isn’t.
Can they even enforce this is the question? Will ISP’s be forced to ban the deepseek site? Will they criminalize people self hosting deepseek on their home servers? Still that 180 days is just a call to download deepseek and modify it a little bit as it not to be chinese anymore and start hosting it as some alternative.