Run, you fucking piece of shit. Go go go gogogogogogog!

My niece told her grandmother about her fear of getting murdered at school. Feel that fear, asshole.

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    I dont carry a gun, and my access to something is not why I am in favor of it being legal. Do you want legalized marijuana just because you want to use it or because you think everyone should be allowed to use it?

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      Do you support them being legal and almost entirely unregulated? Because that is the GOP position and there is a big gulf between the two.

      I have no problem with guns being legal. Unlike Republicans, though, I don’t want them in the hands of, for example, the criminally insane.

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        I do support unregulated guns, but I am willing to compromise. Right now guns are extremely regulated particularly in some states, which is wrong. I think the biggest problem is that the regulations that some people want are ineffective at best.

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          I do support unregulated guns

          Really? So guns for toddlers? Guns for people who have been institutionalized multiple times? Guns for people who have committed treasonous acts?

          A former school shooter gets out of prison- give them a gun?

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            Guns for people who have committed treasonous acts?

            This is the exact reason I support unregulated gun use, because people can claim things and then people lose rights.

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                I think the only valid point you have is that insane people shouldnt have guns; toddlers parents should be in charge of what they have access to. So if you proposition is that we only limit guns to insane people, I agree to this compromise.

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        Guns are a federally protected right, and yes I would run someone that was shooting at people. You wouldnt?

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              The same way it works in all other countries. Is not a coincidence that the US is the only country where gun ownership is a right in the constitution and the country #1 in school shootings.

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                How would you get hundreds of millions of guns out of circulation without making tens of millions of law abiding americans into criminals?

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      The purpose of a joint isn’t to kill people. Go ahead, say guns aren’t for killing, it’ll save a lot of back-and-forth.

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        I was responding to the idea I want gun rights so I can be a hero. I want people to have guns because they want guns for any variety of reasons. I want legal marijuana because people want marijuana. Both have externality and benefits.

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          I want people to have guns because they want guns for any variety of reasons

          Everyone who takes firearms training learns that the purpose of a gun is to kill things. It is a weapon, and killing is its only purpose. Any reasons to want a weapon involve harming or killing others, or the threat thereof - even if the reason given is “protection”, it’s only protection in the context of hurting or killing someone before they hurt or kill someone else. This is why cannabis and cars are not a valid comparison.

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            Guns are for a lot more than just killing. Two other obvious things are target shooting and threat deterrent. Then there is the reason to prevent tyranny.

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              Target shooting, to make sure you can hit what you’re aiming at. Threat deterrent, with the threat of force. “To prevent tyranny” by killing people.

              Every reason is a derivative of causing harm. Every single one.

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                Literally people buy guns to shoot targets. Do you really think people buy 22lr to kill? I have weapons used for target practice and I no plans of shooting anything.

                And threat deterrent is more than tyranny, people carry guns so people know they have guns so they are less likely to be attacked (at least that is teh theory).

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                  Your target practice doesn’t seem to be working because you are missing the point by a worrying margin.

                  Let me try putting it like this: List all the things you can create or build using guns as your tools. At no point are you allowed to use the guns for destruction of any kind. If that’s not their only purpose, then this should be easy.

                  Edit: Actually the hell with it, I don’t have the patience for this nonsense. Sorry bud, go back to firearms training and ask if a gun is ever not a deadly weapon if you wanna have this argument.