I didn’t mean for this post to cause a bunch of arguing in the comments =(

I thought this was just some gallows humor (e.g. “Everything’s lovely except that I have to fear for my safety all the time”) type of shitpost that sounded similar to comments I’ve heard from women irl a lot.

  • 🎨 Elaine Cortez 🇨🇦 @lemm.ee
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    As a girl, I love taking walks in the evening/night or early in the morning, they really are a vibe! However if there’s a man who appears to be following behind me, I always grab my keys in my pocket to be ready to fight in case he tries anything. I will also text friends/family when I’m going out and text them when I arrive back home.

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    The problem isn’t men who love to commit murder but women who love murderers
    #feminismkills

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    You are 10x more likely to die by falling, car crash or unintentionally poisoned than get murdered.

    You are 20x more likely to die by falling, car crash, or unintentionally poisoned than get murdered, as a woman.

    Women are actually much less likely to get murdered in general.

    Stop villainizing men. This is equally as idiotic as villainizing POC because they have higher crime rates Dont sink to the level of the GOP by generalizing. The unfair alienation of young men is real, and ultimately cost us the election, just so we can feel better than them.

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      23 days ago

      Wow calling for the death of innocent people based on gender.

      The fuck is wrong with Lemmy upvotng this.

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          Predominantly other men. But that doesn’t make it ok.

          Relax, David, you might get attacked or killed on your way back from work, but I don’t feel sympathy, because it’d probably be done by another man.

          The reality is anybody can feel unsafe at night, and everyone is valid in thinking so. Women generally feel more threatened because, despite being far less likely to be targeted, they’re also far less likely to be able to resist their attacker, which is also very reasonable.

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            i didn’t say it makes it okay or that i’m not sympathetic. this thread is full of “but what about men tho” takes to discredit the fear women reasonably have of being attacked by men. they don’t have to worry about women nearly as much. the original post stands true regardless of whether or not men are also affected, which they are, and perhaps they should consider doing something about it instead of just dismissing the concern all together because it came from a woman.

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        That’s not being bold, that’s supression of risk assesment and reduction on consequence sensitivity. Brought on by testosterone.

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    If I said cops are racist, would y’all really think I’m being biased against cops? After all, it’s not all cops. 🙄

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    That’s why you get a gun. Practice and be prepard to use. Don’t ever hesitate, someone tries to attack you, regardless of gender, they forfeit their right to life.

    (Also get pepper spray in case you are in a dangerous situation, but its not enough to warrant a deadly response, then just fucking spray them, and run. If they chase after you, fucking shoot them.)

    This advice goes for both men and women.

    TLDR: Get pepper spray, and get a gun. Use them in that order.

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    Yikes. Someone makes a gender based overgeneralization when overwhelming evidence (look at crime stats) proves it incorrect, and those that dare to defend that group get attacked.

    Bigotry is bigotry. If you hate a group purely based on their superficial membership, then you are bigoted.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot#:~:text=noun,group)%20with%20hatred%20and%20intolerance

    The strongest argument you have is when you compare violence perpetrated by gender. But even then, that doesn’t support your argument that all men are evil in some way. And at such low numbers, it’s disingenuous deflection b/c even the two summed up don’t account for even 1% of the population. Sad that so many of you have brain rot.

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      does the post say “all men are murderers”? no, it doesn’t. it is however true that a disproportionate amount of men are murderers, especially compared to women, the number of whom that are murderers of men or other women are so statistically low compared to men that it isn’t even worthy of consideration.

      men, generally, are far more likely to commit acts of violence than women. and the number of men who do, while not the majority, is high enough for women to be afraid of men in general.

      under our existing patriarchal social conditions, men are murderers. they’re more inclined to violence and present a higher risk than women. saying “men are murderers” doesn’t mean “all men including you are murderers” it simply means that the threat is near entirely comprised of men. you should also be aware that we also don’t think that this is inherent to being a man but a manifestation of social conditioning under patriarchy that encourages such behavior in men.

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        lol, i literally point out how your retort is flawed, and you bull head through it anyways.

        What’s funny but somehow escapes the terminal basement dwellers is that the majority of productive women do not worry about this b/c they understand how stats work. But bigots are never smart enough to even understand basic stats.

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          you didn’t cite any actual statistics, meanwhile throughout this thread people have been citing stats that prove you wrong. violent crime between men and women is not equal, and women are disproportionately victimized by it and men disproportionately cause it.

          and yes, i’m fully aware these statistics compare violence by gender. no one is saying that because the majority of violent crime is committed by men, that the majority of men are violent criminals. you’re being obtuse and missing the point on purpose.

          with that said, the number of women in total affected by violence, sexual violence especially. is indeed high anyway even if it isn’t all men, it happens enough that all women have to live in fear.

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            It’s not hard to find how low the crime stats are. FBI posts them yearly. It’s called google.

            Obv you don’t get how to make a statistical argument if you bull headedly stuck with it. In the end, while you’re busy preoccupied by the gender distraction, a good amount of us are furthering the real divide, class. And well, while you’re still repeating your tired, pointless arguments, productive people (men and women) are leaving you behind…happily.

            Simply put, you can’t say “too bad men are murderers tho” or any other derivative when you use a stat that doesn’t actually support that argument. But again, bigots aren’t the smartest lot.

            Have a nice night.

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              i actually posted the FBI statistics in my reply. you didn’t. you didn’t even fucking read them i bet.

              you can’t liberate the proles without the liberation of marginalized groups among them. stop pretending to be a comrade in class struggle when you’re just a misogynist and opposed to what we stand for.

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                Yea, but the stat doesn’t support your argument lol

                Also, your assumption of my misogyny is completely unfounded. However, your misandry/bigotry is an full display. It’s all good though. Your bigotry will hold you back for as long as you hold onto it. I, on the other hand, will continue to work with my colleagues, men and women. We work well together b/c we actually understand how to dissect an argument and how racists/misandrists/misogynists/bigots lie with stats…like you’re doing now.

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                  it literally does. you don’t even understand my argument.

                  good luck having women work with you though, i’m sure they’ll love how you downplay their experiences with sexual violence because “not all men are bad”

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      Woman: “I and everyone I know have had some really bad experiences with men”

      This dude: “Actually, you’ve had bad experiences with a small minority of men. Why do you hate all men?”

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          That’s like saying that “the majority of crimes in Sweden are committed by white people” is bigotry. It’s not bigotry, it’s fucking statistics.

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            No, the argument is that the overall number of crimes is so low you can’t make any population inferences lmao

            You bigots demonstrating they don’t understand sound argumentation.

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              So you feel totally safe walking alone at night and a strange man starts approaching you, right?

              Because my penis sure doesn’t make me feel safe in those situations.

              Where is the victim’s gender even mentioned in the meme?

              Also, I would suggest calling a mod a bigot on a community where the very first rule is “be respectful” might not be the smartest thing for you to be doing.

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                Obvious bait.

                Even citing certain statistics is likely to earn a ban. It isn’t hard to imagine what, given that they are notoriously thrown around by actual racists.

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                  That mod deleted my comment earlier saying that if someone needs to abuse their moderator powers by threatening an instaban b/c they were called out for a poor use of stats in the name of bigotry, then maybe they’re the baddie lol

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        And of course your common sense take is getting downvoted. They should get the bears to protect them.

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    I like to do a fun exercise every time I read something like this.

    Swap the word for who you are accusing with some other group. If this make the statement distasteful then the statement is distasteful in it’s orginal form.

    The Left like to blame men, the right like to blame immigrants so for example: “it’s a shame immigrants love to commit murder”.

    Why is it okay to say men love to murder but not immigrants?

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      At night on walks!? We are talking about the dangers of walking alone at night. Are 13 year old boys afriad to walk in the park because they will get jumped by pedophiles of the opposite gender?

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        except the implication kikutwo’s trying to get across here isn’t true at all. stop entertaining this garbage. one instance of something happen is not equivalent to an immense amount of something else happening.

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      You’re part of the problem. You hear that violence from men is too high, and rather than think what you might help do about it or how to avoid adding to that statistic yourself, you feel threatened by it and try to defend yourself with whataboutism.

      Ironically, it’s probably this kind of emotion immaturity that leads men to violence more. Please, critically engage with these ideas and learn some emotional maturity.

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          Wow, a single article being used in a feeble attempt to overstate a trend that’s almost a magnitude smaller than its counterpart, and that doesn’t compare very well to the topic of the thread?

          Gee, I wonder why people aren’t convinced with you spewing facts.

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              Your point is “look at what this one woman did” as a counterpoint to “women can’t go out at night because violence is so prevalent”. How am I making that up? That’s literally what you’re doing. Lol

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                  it’s a statistic fact that men commit an absurdly high amount of sexual violence against women. the best you could come up with is ONE article of ONE case demonstrating the opposite. go fuck yourself.

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              you literally said “women molest 13-year-old boys” as if it’s a common occurrence the way men raping women is. the best you could do was cite one article about one case. you know exacly what it is you’re doing. stop playing dumb.

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      When a female teacher sleeps with a male student it is international news because those are very popular stories that get a lot of clicks (you know why).

      When a male teacher does it, it’s local news for maybe a week.

      This can lead stupid people into thinking there is a endemic problem with female teachers abusing male students, but that’s like thinking it’s easy to won the lottery because there’s always lottery winners in the news.