Hi! In thinking about how to help the fediverse grow, I wonder if there are more mainstream Lemmy instances?
I’ve pointed a couple folks to Lemmy.world and it’s uhhh, pretty hard Left for them (as one girl, who volunteered for the Democrats said “I just got yelled at because I can’t be Left wing unless I want to destroy capitalism? Which feels weird.”) We’re much farther Left than reddit which itself was definitely Left of centre…
I don’t know if decentralized open source social media actually attracts many mainstreamers but assuming we want to grow the fediverse, I’d like to have somewhere I can point people to without feeling very nervous for them.
Thanks!
Your friend is confused. Leftism is inherently anti-capitalist so she can’t be a leftist unless she wants to ditch capitalism.
Most people in say America define Left Right on the current political spectrum, with Democrats on the left and Republicans on the Right.
It’s like when people talk about work, we know they’re not actually talking about Force times Distance as defined by Newtonian physics, we understand they are talking about their job.
In any civilised society American “Democrats” are considered far right (Biden et al) to centre right (Sanders).
Republicans are self admitted fascist lunatics.
Don’t expect American standards when you get out of your fascist echo chamber.
Do keep in mind the most left leaning democrat you can think of would be a center-right candidate in my country. It’s unfortunate that indeed you can only work with what you got, but don’t be surprised when others cringe at the thought of calling your democratic party leftist.
Americans do not get their own definition for philosophies.
It’s the same in most countries. In Canada, we put the NDP on the Left, Liberals generally centre Left, Conservatives on the Right and the Bloc… well, they do Bloc things.
Similar set up in most places. In common conversation, Left Right mean a standard political spectrum.
If I said I went to work, have I redefined Newtonian physics?
False. The Liberals are generally centre-right even within Canada. Your compass is off.
Your Newtonian physics argument is nonsensical and frankly rude.
I don’t think you understand leftism. Economic leftism (Socialism, Marxism, Communism) is inherently anti capitalist. The social spectrum of left and right is pointless. I am not necessarily a Liberal but I would define myself as a leftist. I do not consider liberals to be inherently leftists.
Like I’ve said repeatedly, in the popular context and most common words used by people, Left wing has different definition.
To re-use the example above, if I said I went to work, have I redefined Newtonian physics? Or would you understand that work has different meanings depending on context?
No, it isn’t. Unless you are Eurocentric and ignore most nationsliberalism is where the left starts though liberalism isn’t “leftist”. The right is authoritarianism. This is true all around the world.
Those were definitely words!
Can you give a couple examples of countries where the major left party/parties is/are anti capitalist?
Germany, France